Harry Reid is a Pedophile - Page 2

footfootfoot · 08-09-2012, 01:35 PM

Pedophile, huh? Pretty fancy word for a 12 year old.

anonymous · 08-09-2012, 01:54 PM

i wouldnt fuck him with somebody elses kid.

infinite monkey · 09-05-2012, 11:47 PM

Sounds like Wonderland.

'ere

BigV · 09-05-2012, 11:53 PM

Hey Adak!

You're wrong in about every paragraph there. I'll point out your mistakes more specifically tomorrow.

See you then!

xoxoxoBruce · 09-06-2012, 04:05 AM

Now now Big V, 2a was probably true, just the rest is fucked up.

ZenGum · 09-06-2012, 06:34 AM

There's no need to worry about finding the energy to power factories. Romney and his mates at Bain Capital have closed most of them down.

Seriously, this Rolling Stone article ( http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...pital-20120829 ) lays it out pretty well. They got rich by wrecking, not by building.

IMHO, the Romney/Ryan ticket is the epitome of what is wrong with the USA today.

infinite monkey · 09-06-2012, 11:25 AM

*snickers*

Pappy O'Daniel: "Yeah, well, you'll be laughing out the other side of your face come November."
Pappy's Staff 2: "Pappy O'Daniel will be laughing then."
Pappy's Staff 1: "Not out the other side of his face, though."
Pappy's Staff 2: "Oh, no, no, no. Just the regular side."

--O Brother Where Art Thou

xoxoxoBruce · 09-07-2012, 02:02 AM

Michael Milken... Mitt Romney... Gordon Gekko.
Quasi-legal, and morally bankrupt.

BigV · 09-08-2012, 12:47 AM

I don't fault a person for changing their position on a given subject, even one as important as a woman's choice regarding abortion. In the case of our lawmakers, I'd like them to explain the reasoning behind their decision. That's true whether they've changed their position or not.

The reason they changed their minds matters to me. If it's for what I feel is a good reason, I can respect that. They've had a serious change of heart, they got religion, those kinds of reasons might not be my reasons but I can respect them. If the reason is to curry favor with a given part of the electorate, I can't respect that reason. For someone like Romney, who ostensibly would be representing all citizens, I don't think this kind of reason is worthy of my respect. And that looks like the basis for his change, I've certainly heard nothing to the contrary.

Griff · 09-24-2012, 08:20 PM

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/24/161685...s-funny-shapes

Very depressing story. It seems that gerrymandering to protect incumbents also has had the effect of electing extremists both left and right because one party districts are usually one by the most extreme hack. These guys can't compromise because the next douche will have room to run more extreme.

piercehawkeye45 · 09-24-2012, 08:44 PM

I've heard other people propose that partisan gerrymandering should be made illegal for the reasons suggested above. There will never be a perfectly fair solution but I have confidence it wouldn't be too hard to avoid completely partisan redistricting.

Griff · 09-25-2012, 05:25 AM

It seems like a simple thing, until you start digging into it.

glatt · 09-25-2012, 07:40 AM

That web based game where you get to draw districts in a fictional state to learn how gerrymandering works was really good. I learned a lot from that.

If you make each district reflect the same proportions as the whole state, then the majority will always defeat the minority party and the minority will have no representation at all in government. That's very bad. By gerrymandering the districts, you can set it up so that the minority party is able to win at least a representative or two, and have some influence in government. The down side is the extremism you mention.

I'd like to see districts that have only a very slight edge in one direction or another so that candidates have to be moderate to win, but also so that the minority party in the state has a district where things are leaning their way, so they can get some representation too. Basically, you need a benevolent dictator to draw those lines, and that kind of misses the point.

piercehawkeye45 · 09-25-2012, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

It seems like a simple thing, until you start digging into it.

I would prefer to stay in my ignorant bubble thank you very much.

Happy Monkey · 09-25-2012, 09:01 AM

I wonder how much difference this rule would make:

The land area added by making the shape of a district convex (ie, putting a "rubber band" around it) cannot be more than 50% of the area of the district.

That would limit the weirdness of the shapes a bit.

08-09-2012, 01:35 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Pedophile, huh? Pretty fancy word for a 12 year old. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

09-05-2012, 11:53 PM	#4
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Hey Adak! You're wrong in about every paragraph there. I'll point out your mistakes more specifically tomorrow. See you then! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-06-2012, 04:05 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Now now Big V, 2a was probably true, just the rest is fucked up. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-06-2012, 06:34 AM	#6
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	There's no need to worry about finding the energy to power factories. Romney and his mates at Bain Capital have closed most of them down. Seriously, this Rolling Stone article ( http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...pital-20120829 ) lays it out pretty well. They got rich by wrecking, not by building. IMHO, the Romney/Ryan ticket is the epitome of what is wrong with the USA today. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

09-07-2012, 02:02 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Michael Milken... Mitt Romney... Gordon Gekko. Quasi-legal, and morally bankrupt. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-09-2012, 01:54 PM	#2
anonymous Operations Operative Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: in hiding Posts: 578	i wouldnt fuck him with somebody elses kid.

09-05-2012, 11:47 PM	#3
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Sounds like Wonderland. 'ere

09-06-2012, 11:25 AM	#7
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	snickers Pappy O'Daniel: "Yeah, well, you'll be laughing out the other side of your face come November." Pappy's Staff 2: "Pappy O'Daniel will be laughing then." Pappy's Staff 1: "Not out the other side of his face, though." Pappy's Staff 2: "Oh, no, no, no. Just the regular side." --O Brother Where Art Thou

09-08-2012, 12:47 AM	#9
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I don't fault a person for changing their position on a given subject, even one as important as a woman's choice regarding abortion. In the case of our lawmakers, I'd like them to explain the reasoning behind their decision. That's true whether they've changed their position or not. The reason they changed their minds matters to me. If it's for what I feel is a good reason, I can respect that. They've had a serious change of heart, they got religion, those kinds of reasons might not be my reasons but I can respect them. If the reason is to curry favor with a given part of the electorate, I can't respect that reason. For someone like Romney, who ostensibly would be representing all citizens, I don't think this kind of reason is worthy of my respect. And that looks like the basis for his change, I've certainly heard nothing to the contrary. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-24-2012, 08:20 PM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	http://www.npr.org/2012/09/24/161685...s-funny-shapes Very depressing story. It seems that gerrymandering to protect incumbents also has had the effect of electing extremists both left and right because one party districts are usually one by the most extreme hack. These guys can't compromise because the next douche will have room to run more extreme. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

09-24-2012, 08:44 PM	#11
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I've heard other people propose that partisan gerrymandering should be made illegal for the reasons suggested above. There will never be a perfectly fair solution but I have confidence it wouldn't be too hard to avoid completely partisan redistricting. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

09-25-2012, 05:25 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	It seems like a simple thing, until you start digging into it. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

09-25-2012, 07:40 AM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	That web based game where you get to draw districts in a fictional state to learn how gerrymandering works was really good. I learned a lot from that. If you make each district reflect the same proportions as the whole state, then the majority will always defeat the minority party and the minority will have no representation at all in government. That's very bad. By gerrymandering the districts, you can set it up so that the minority party is able to win at least a representative or two, and have some influence in government. The down side is the extremism you mention. I'd like to see districts that have only a very slight edge in one direction or another so that candidates have to be moderate to win, but also so that the minority party in the state has a district where things are leaning their way, so they can get some representation too. Basically, you need a benevolent dictator to draw those lines, and that kind of misses the point.

09-25-2012, 09:01 AM	#15
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I wonder how much difference this rule would make: The land area added by making the shape of a district convex (ie, putting a "rubber band" around it) cannot be more than 50% of the area of the district. That would limit the weirdness of the shapes a bit. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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