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Old 03-13-2020, 11:36 PM   #1
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The Politics of a Health Crisis

Firstly, the Republicans have talked themselves into a corner, by calling every Democrat a “Socialist” for the last 20 years. I understand why they do it—because decrying “big government” puts money in their pocket*. But, really, the mis-labelling is gratuitous at this point—they already got their huge tax cuts**

What would they do if a guy who literally calls himself a Socialist***—were running for President. No need to do anything—the Democrats (or, Republican Lite™) did everything in their collective power to stop that from happening—to the point of coronating an un-electable buffoon that Trump will absolutely CRUSH in the general.

Then, the system is stressed. And it turns out that EVERYBODY wants to do Socialism now! Pump money into this! Hand out money for that! Give people UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME. Give people FREE HEALTHCARE. Turns out, Progressives were right all along, and Socialist government programs really are the solution we need. The Free Market™ has NOT stepped up to tackle this issue, because THEY NEVER GAVE A SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So how could the “Liberal Media” have conspired to create a panic to hurt Trump, when it is also a crisis that ONLY SOCIALISM CAN SOLVE? And at the same time, conspire to CRUSH Socialism?? And at the same time, BE Socialists???

Conclusion: People want Socialism, people NEED socialism, but they’ll only admit it on their literal DEATHBED. Society deserves to be destroyed, we’re too ƒucking stupid to live.

*and only hurts people that they don’t care about
**which they didn’t even need. they’re doing so well since Reagan they were able to BUY politics—the whole thing!
***Democratic Socialist, but this is a distinction that only people under 45 are able to grasp
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Old 03-14-2020, 08:57 AM   #2
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Everybody doesn't want Socialism.*

Everybody wants a Make Everything Okay Again Immediately button.

But only markets can reach that. It was the incredible power of markets that created the new economic power of China which allowed them to build hospitals in days. If this happened 30 years ago, before they changed their economic system and markets arrived, they would all be dead now.




*The World is not your social media
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:00 AM   #3
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No need to do anything—the Democrats (or, Republican Lite™) did everything in their collective power to stop that from happening
Also, black people
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:29 AM   #4
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… Society deserves to be destroyed, we’re too ƒucking stupid to live. ...
That's a little drastic. How about a good old fashioned military coup. Take the Oath and you'll be issued everything you need...even a comfort woman (I call dibs on Ivanka). Everyone will be looking good - Dress right, DRESS. Society will be marching in step. Stupid will be assimilated and redirected. Don't worry, be happy! What say you, Captain Flint?
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:30 AM   #5
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Everybody wants a Make Everything Okay Again Immediately button.

But only markets can reach that.
The market can't do that.
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Old 03-14-2020, 05:14 PM   #6
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Everybody doesn't want Socialism.*
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*The World is not your social media
Oh god, you're right! I accidentally wrote this post after getting clonked on the head by a 2x4.
Thank you for telling me big Wise Person Things!


unless ... I meant the other thing ... that there was a whole paragraph about ? ? ?
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Old 03-14-2020, 05:49 PM   #7
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I was attacking your premise. I didn't actually mean to attack you, that was an accident sorry
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Old 03-14-2020, 05:56 PM   #8
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Firstly, the Republicans have talked themselves into a corner, by calling every Democrat a “Socialist” for the last 20 years. I understand why they do it—because decrying “big government” puts money in their pocket*. But, really, the mis-labelling is gratuitous at this point—they already got their huge tax cuts**
How might this have been done better? The soundbite has been successful for decades. But, like any soundbite, it must change with age. How might that soundbite have changed to keep ahead of the times? Obviously, the change would (must) be subtle. Or was a change attempted?
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Old 03-14-2020, 06:44 PM   #9
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good sir, your kind words have assuaged my botheration, and I am no longer Big Mad at your face
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Old 03-14-2020, 06:44 PM   #10
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Not exactly on point



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Old 03-14-2020, 06:47 PM   #11
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good sir, your kind words have assuaged my botheration, and I am no longer Big Mad at your face
Also, I endeavor to do better in future. I promise
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:54 PM   #12
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Old 03-15-2020, 12:48 AM   #13
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:40 AM   #14
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