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Old 07-21-2019, 03:09 PM   #691
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The 30 cylinder engine was designed to produce the torque they needed at the speed they wanted.
It was designed with sufficient horsepower so that gears could select a torque necessary to maintain a speed. Horsepower (not torque) is always the relevant parameter.

As usual, due to too much emotion and insufficient knowledge, you again got it wrong.

4 cylinder engine can produce that same torque. But insufficient speed - due to insufficient horsepower. You also got that wrong.

Anyone not educated by hearsay (who can do simple multiplication) would know that. Only motors with sufficient horsepower can produce a torque at required speeds. Somehow that multiplication is just too hard - the routine expression from another lesser educated man called George Jr.

Meanwhile, that engine apparently had a very short life span due to its low performance numbers.
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:13 PM   #692
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I have a feeling clothing had a lot to do with it.
Innovations were necessary because the human output too much torque. That large front wheel converted high torque - low speed into low torque high speed. With gears and chains, then smaller wheels could accomplish the same conversion. And provide the many different torque - speed ratios that a bike needs for changing terrains.

But again, it all about that simple concept taught in school science - the product of torque and speed. So that a much less than 1 horsepower engine (the human) could adapt to changing loads.
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:54 PM   #693
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hey tw

you're wrong about your unswerving devotion to the temple of horsepower.

Let me ask you this. When you have a nut on a bolt to remove (or tighten), do you, with your static, unchanging amount of personal horsepower, use your fingers and thumb, or do you use a wrench?
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:12 PM   #694
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It was designed with sufficient horsepower so that gears could select a torque necessary to maintain a speed. Horsepower (not torque) is always the relevant parameter.
Ass backward as usual, the engine is designed for torque, they sure as hell don't add a bunch of extra pistons to make more rpm. Gear selection dictates the speed the work gets done, torque does the work.
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:54 PM   #695
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So, I was rolling along rattlesnake trail a really sweet single track with a lot of turns climbs and descents when suddenly I see ...
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:54 PM   #696
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Then a couple monster lathes...
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:58 PM   #697
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:59 PM   #698
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:01 PM   #699
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I did not have a ripe banana so I've scaled with a mtn bike.
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:27 PM   #700
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:27 PM   #701
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Weird. Any idea of what the history/circumstances might be?
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:25 PM   #702
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It's the site of Redstone quarries in North Conway NH. They quarried and polished granite like the massive column in the pic. I don't think they lasted long working from the late 1800's and shutting down sometime in the 1910's.

I didn't know the site was there until I rode into it.
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:00 PM   #703
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Granite's expensive, right? Is it not worth someone's effort to get in there and take that column? Or are there just too many trees in the way, do you think?
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:17 PM   #704
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It's a state historic site now. I was surprised that amount of steel was still there. The column is accessible but there is a rail bed between it and the roads.
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Old 07-28-2019, 05:10 PM   #705
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You didn't ride your bike on top along the length of the column? After a balancing act like that, it could've been called Griffhenge.
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