Thank you, America! - Page 2

glatt · 11-09-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Oh, who am I trying to kid? He won't answer them anyway.

I figured there was nothing to answer. When you are right, you are right.

The country is still split 50/50. Is just a smidgen to the left now instead of a smidgen to the right.

Trilby · 11-09-2006, 01:22 PM

DanaC: "There is a big difference between disagreeing with a country who went to war and wanting terrible things to happen to that country."

riiight. You love us.

Undertoad · 11-09-2006, 01:24 PM

It's not our fault. You guys kicked out all the religious nuts with guns and now you're surprised we're a bunch of religious nuts with guns!

yesman065 · 11-09-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Nobody’s ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq."

Nor did I, but he had been supporting training and offering a safe haven to them for decades.

yesman065 · 11-09-2006, 01:36 PM

This war is NOT against Iraq - its against Terrorists.

Flint · 11-09-2006, 01:43 PM

Can I justifiably break into your garage and steal your lawnmower, because of terrorists?

yesman065 · 11-09-2006, 01:47 PM

Nah - my ex moved out of the house last weekend and took it along with everything else & I mean everything right down to lightbulbs and toilet paper. But if I had one, you could.

Flint · 11-09-2006, 01:48 PM

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yesman065 · 11-09-2006, 02:08 PM

OK, I give up - you guys are all right and I'm nuts. (not the first time) Just let me make sure I get this correct, so when asked I have ALL the facts and can discuss this intelligently. We, America, as a country, invaded another country, Iraq, and committed the majority of our military manpower, jeopardizing 10's if not 100's of thousands of lives, included all facets of our defense programs, spent countless millions of dollars AND dragged our allies with us for absolutely no reason other than to just to siphon off money into the pockets of political and personal supporters. Is that right??

Shawnee123 · 11-09-2006, 02:11 PM

Sounds pretty close

Flint · 11-09-2006, 02:12 PM

I think we had reasons for doing it, and I wish they could have been more up front about what they were, instead of cooking up a series of failed PR campaigns, and losing support for a war the reasons for which were never properly stated to begin with.

glatt · 11-09-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

OK, I give up - you guys are all right and I'm nuts. (not the first time) Just let me make sure I get this correct, so when asked I have ALL the facts and can discuss this intelligently. We, America, as a country, invaded another country, Iraq, and committed the majority of our military manpower, jeopardizing 10's if not 100's of thousands of lives, included all facets of our defense programs, spent countless millions of dollars AND dragged our allies with us for absolutely no reason other than to just to siphon off money into the pockets of political and personal supporters. Is that right??

I still don't know why we invaded Iraq. It never made sense. Your reason isn't the best I've heard, but it's possible.

yesman065 · 11-09-2006, 02:19 PM

My goodness people - that is really really sad! I am ashamed to call myself an American if some of us actually believe that statement. I am done - there is no more. It really scares the hell outta me that anyone could convince someone of that.

BigV · 11-09-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Now I'm the one who is speechless.

I, too, am speechless.

The whole "they attacked us" where "they" == "Iraq" is a big red flag for me. I hear that and give the next ten seconds or so to gather the context--humor, sarcasm, rebuttal, or, gawd, righteous indignation. If the tone is serious belief, the speaker has lost considerable standing, perhaps permanently. This is on the order of saying "The earth is flat." with a straight face. Gonna be *hard* to recover from that one.

yesman065 · 11-09-2006, 02:30 PM

They = terrorists.

11-09-2006, 01:22 PM	#17
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	DanaC: "There is a big difference between disagreeing with a country who went to war and wanting terrible things to happen to that country." riiight. You love us. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-09-2006, 01:43 PM	#21
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Can I justifiably break into your garage and steal your lawnmower, because of terrorists? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-09-2006, 01:48 PM	#23
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	!!! . __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-09-2006, 02:11 PM	#25
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Sounds pretty close __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-09-2006, 02:12 PM	#26
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I think we had reasons for doing it, and I wish they could have been more up front about what they were, instead of cooking up a series of failed PR campaigns, and losing support for a war the reasons for which were never properly stated to begin with. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-09-2006, 01:24 PM	#18
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It's not our fault. You guys kicked out all the religious nuts with guns and now you're surprised we're a bunch of religious nuts with guns!

11-09-2006, 01:36 PM	#20
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	This war is NOT against Iraq - its against Terrorists.

11-09-2006, 01:47 PM	#22
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Nah - my ex moved out of the house last weekend and took it along with everything else & I mean everything right down to lightbulbs and toilet paper. But if I had one, you could.

11-09-2006, 02:08 PM	#24
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	OK, I give up - you guys are all right and I'm nuts. (not the first time) Just let me make sure I get this correct, so when asked I have ALL the facts and can discuss this intelligently. We, America, as a country, invaded another country, Iraq, and committed the majority of our military manpower, jeopardizing 10's if not 100's of thousands of lives, included all facets of our defense programs, spent countless millions of dollars AND dragged our allies with us for absolutely no reason other than to just to siphon off money into the pockets of political and personal supporters. Is that right??

11-09-2006, 02:19 PM	#28
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	My goodness people - that is really really sad! I am ashamed to call myself an American if some of us actually believe that statement. I am done - there is no more. It really scares the hell outta me that anyone could convince someone of that.

11-09-2006, 02:30 PM	#30
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	They = terrorists.

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