Evolution

Discuss it here.
BTW, Berkley does address the Micro/Macro issue.

Microevolution and macroevolution encompass change at very different scales, but both work through the same basic processes.

Evolution is evolution.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/ =

http://tolweb.org/tree/



Really good overview/timeline, as well as many links on the theory of Speciation:
Species, Speciation and the Environment
By Niles Eldredge

[piercehawkeye45]

Good links, rkzenrage.

Here is one of, if not the best evolution versus creationism database on the web. It is a huge website and covers almost every issue on evolution and the origin of life.

http://www.talkorigins.org/

[Jeboduuza]

I will read the articles, but before that I just wanted to start by asking a question.

From what I know life started with like plasma fusing with organic particles. Or something along those lines. Anyway, how does that make life?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Only God can answer that at this point.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Jeboduuza

From what I know life started with like plasma fusing with organic particles. Or something along those lines. Anyway, how does that make life?

From what I know, we don't exactly how life was formed but we know that proteins can be formed in the right conditions.

This could help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Good links, rkzenrage.

Here is one of, if not the best evolution versus creationism database on the web. It is a huge website and covers almost every issue on evolution and the origin of life.

http://www.talkorigins.org/

Thank you very much.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Jeboduuza

From what I know life started with like plasma fusing with organic particles. Or something along those lines. Anyway, how does that make life?

The Sagan video in the original post has a good explanation. In short, the first proto-life was a self-replicating molecule. Without predators, and in a vast ocean of random organic molecules, it didn't need the complex protection of a cell. When resources got scarce, competition became a factor, and things became more complicated.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... and things became more complicated.

God.

(I maintain my position that there is no inconsistency between a religious and scientific explanation. Once you stop seeing them as mutually exclusive opposing sides, you step back and go, "Okay, yeah, it could work that way too." The Big Bang and Evolution are just as miraculous as a carpenter's son walking on water.)

[freshnesschronic]

Life started with the egg. Then came the chicken. DUH!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Are you sure?

[DanaC]

This is loony, but fun to watch. http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/9/4806.

I did not post this because of the creationism aspect, though that is interesting, but the comments on Theory, which some seem to have issues with... not in here so far, but many do and I love how they put it in here.

[dar512]

Originally Posted by wolf

God.

(I maintain my position that there is no inconsistency between a religious and scientific explanation. Once you stop seeing them as mutually exclusive opposing sides, you step back and go, "Okay, yeah, it could work that way too." The Big Bang and Evolution are just as miraculous as a carpenter's son walking on water.)

That's pretty much my position too.

It might be coincidence, but I think if you showed a primitive person a movie of the creation of the universe and the origins of life and then asked them to tell the tale to others, I think you'd get pretty much the first few paragraphs of Genesis.

[Squid_Operator]

Certainly not creationism.

I'm down with evolution.