George "Macacawitz" Allen on Guns - Page 3

Aliantha · 11-23-2006, 08:00 PM

Well at 4/427, I'm more than game.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-23-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Incidentally Urbane, Up until very recently the concept of militia was a strong part of the English consciousness. We held to a militia system for over a thousand years. It was the duty for every freeborn man to hold arms throughout the saxon and medieval period.

Which is where WE got it from. What's more, as a society that loudly makes a point of its citizens being freeborn, we're determined to keep them around.

Your society should not drop this, or you'll be 1984 in only a matter of time. You have only to reread the book to say yuck to that. At least, that's all I have to do. You?

Griff · 11-24-2006, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Which is where WE got it from. What's more, as a society that loudly makes a point of its citizens being freeborn, we're determined to keep them around.

Roger that.

DanaC · 11-24-2006, 10:36 AM

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Your society should not drop this, or you'll be 1984 in only a matter of time. You have only to reread the book to say yuck to that. At least, that's all I have to do. You?

Forgive me, but we aren't the ones who started a perpetual war against an invisible enemy :P That said, we are the most surveiled nation in Europe.

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At least, that's all I have to do. You?

I am very familar with Orwell's work.

JayMcGee · 11-24-2006, 07:18 PM

ISTR that every home in many of the cantons of Switzerland are required to posses and to be profiecent with arms. Yet one so rarely sees hordes of swiss 'sportsmen' swanning around the alps blasting away at the yodellers, nor even swaggering around their downtown malls 'carrying'. Why would that be?

JayMcGee · 11-24-2006, 07:21 PM

@ ali - was going to say I'm going to train my big guns on you, but tbh at 9/602 and then a paltry response of 53 for 3, I think I'm more inclined to shoot our own team!

Aliantha · 11-24-2006, 08:25 PM

It's far worse than that Jay.

Show us ya guns baby!

Aliantha · 11-24-2006, 10:13 PM

Wooohoooo! England all out for 157 in the first innings!!!

Looks like we'll be one up in the series to kick things off.

JayMcGee · 11-25-2006, 08:00 PM

*sniff...* it's only a game....

martinbrody · 11-26-2006, 01:45 AM

As you can see I am new to this forum, in fact this thread brought me to it.

I think the article posted overlooks the practicality of this law. While the text of the bill being introduced certainly makes it clear the law is about using a gun for protection, the law's real world effect is a practical one.

Having lived near Gettysburg National Park and currently living near Valley Forge National Park the current prohibition of carrying a gun through them creates several problems. The first is that many people who have a permit and legally carry a gun concealed may not be aware of this prohibition. It is your duty to know the law, but this is not common knowledge even among informed gun owners. The second problem is that these parks are large and have prominent throughways that are used by many during their daily commute & regular drives. These two circumstances have to potential to land one of the good guys in very big trouble.

I don't think the intent of the bill is to make the parks safer, but to add uniformity to concealed carry laws.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-26-2006, 02:20 AM

Welcome to the Cellar, martinbrody.

Good point. A lot of parks have major through travel.

wolf · 11-26-2006, 12:09 PM

I think that travel through the park without intention of stopping would be covered as 'peaceable journey,' in the same way that you can drive through a post office parking lot or within 1000 feet of a school while armed, just so long as you don't go inside the buildings.

Trilby · 11-26-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

...every home in many of the cantons of Switzerland are required to posses and to be profiecent with arms. Yet one so rarely sees hordes of swiss 'sportsmen' swanning around the alps blasting away at the yodellers...

The fact that the armed Swiss are NOT gunning those yodellers down is a testament to their commitment to peace at any price.

Here's to the Swiss!

Aliantha · 11-26-2006, 05:36 PM

What's wrong with yodelling?

btw, it's not a practice soley kept for the swiss. Plenty of country singers do it too.

DanaC · 11-27-2006, 04:50 AM

Yeah....but do they do it wearing funny pants?

11-23-2006, 08:00 PM	#31
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well at 4/427, I'm more than game. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-24-2006, 07:18 PM	#35
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	ISTR that every home in many of the cantons of Switzerland are *required* to posses and to be profiecent with arms. Yet one so rarely sees hordes of swiss 'sportsmen' swanning around the alps blasting away at the yodellers, nor even swaggering around their downtown malls 'carrying'. Why would that be? __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-24-2006, 07:21 PM	#36
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	@ ali - was going to say I'm going to train my big guns on you, but tbh at 9/602 and then a paltry response of 53 for 3, I think I'm more inclined to shoot our own team! __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-24-2006, 08:25 PM	#37
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It's far worse than that Jay. Show us ya guns baby! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-24-2006, 10:13 PM	#38
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Wooohoooo! England all out for 157 in the first innings!!! Looks like we'll be one up in the series to kick things off. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-25-2006, 08:00 PM	#39
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	sniff... it's only a game.... __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-26-2006, 01:45 AM	#40
martinbrody Kinda New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: PA Posts: 1	As you can see I am new to this forum, in fact this thread brought me to it. I think the article posted overlooks the practicality of this law. While the text of the bill being introduced certainly makes it clear the law is about using a gun for protection, the law's real world effect is a practical one. Having lived near Gettysburg National Park and currently living near Valley Forge National Park the current prohibition of carrying a gun through them creates several problems. The first is that many people who have a permit and legally carry a gun concealed may not be aware of this prohibition. It is your duty to know the law, but this is not common knowledge even among informed gun owners. The second problem is that these parks are large and have prominent throughways that are used by many during their daily commute & regular drives. These two circumstances have to potential to land one of the good guys in very big trouble. I don't think the intent of the bill is to make the parks safer, but to add uniformity to concealed carry laws.

11-26-2006, 02:20 AM	#41
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Welcome to the Cellar, martinbrody. Good point. A lot of parks have major through travel. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-26-2006, 12:09 PM	#42
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I think that travel through the park without intention of stopping would be covered as 'peaceable journey,' in the same way that you can drive through a post office parking lot or within 1000 feet of a school while armed, just so long as you don't go inside the buildings. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-26-2006, 05:36 PM	#44
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	What's wrong with yodelling? btw, it's not a practice soley kept for the swiss. Plenty of country singers do it too. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-27-2006, 04:50 AM	#45
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Yeah....but do they do it wearing funny pants?

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