"I was a naive fool to be a human shield for Saddam" - Page 2

Scred · 03-30-2003, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by richlevy

Fortunately, the U.S. got the money up front for all of the equipment we sold Iraq when they were the 'lesser of many evils' in the region in the 70's.

Yea, all of the equipment. What equipment would that be, then? Can you provide an itemized list? And how much did we sell them? How much of it was military hardware, and how much was civilian grade?

And can you tell me what percentage of all the military hardware sold to Iraq was made up of US goods, regardless of their original purpose?

Oh, okay, I'll answer.

Nothing in the 1970s. Zippo.
In the eighties we sold them:
86 civilian helicopters
30 military helicopters.
200 million dollars worth of hardware, totalling less than one percent of what Iraq bought in a 25 year span.

Anybody care how much some other countries sold them from the seventies up until the gulf war? Well, hell, I'll list them anyway.

Russia 25 Billion
France 5.6 Billion
China 5.2 Billion
Czech 2.9 Billion
Poland 1.7 Billion
Brazil 724 million
Egypt 568 millon
Romania 524 million
Denmark 226 million
Libya 200 million
USA (Finally!) 200 million

Maybe Russia China and France are just afraid that Iraq's inability to utilize that 35 billion dollars worth of hardware might be bad for their military industrial complex. Talk about bad press.

I hear Saddam owes Russia 7 billion dollars in back payments on this stuff, too. Wonder how much France is owed...

slang · 03-30-2003, 08:23 PM

I don't want to seem ungrateful for the itemized list Scred, but could you list the source please.

We are on the same side of this debate, I just like to see people that I agree with to list credible sources so they don't get flamed.That way I can feel as though I am on the correct side of the argument without really doing any research. Hey, I'm honest.

Scred · 03-30-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by slang
I don't want to seem ungrateful for the itemized list Scred, but could you list the source please.

Oops, my bad. sorry.

Stockholm International Peace Research Instititute
http://www.sipri.se/

specifically, there's some PDFs on this page - horribly formatted but enlightening nonetheless.

Transfers to Iraq

Undertoad · 03-31-2003, 02:12 PM

The guy I listed above as "Naive Fool II" has his own article:

http://assyrianchristians.com/i_was_wrong_mar_26_03.htm

03-30-2003, 08:23 PM	#17
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	I don't want to seem ungrateful for the itemized list Scred, but could you list the source please. We are on the same side of this debate, I just like to see people that I agree with to list credible sources so they don't get flamed.That way I can feel as though I am on the correct side of the argument without really doing any research. Hey, I'm honest. Last edited by slang; 03-30-2003 at 08:27 PM.

03-31-2003, 02:12 PM	#19
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The guy I listed above as "Naive Fool II" has his own article: http://assyrianchristians.com/i_was_wrong_mar_26_03.htm

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