WikiLeaks - Page 6

Aliantha · 12-01-2010, 04:24 PM

I 'showed up' because I was never away. Just because someone doesn't post doesn't mean they're not reading stuff.

I'm pretty sick of your bullshit Brianna. Clearly, plenty of others are too. I've not said one word to you which could be in any way construed as nasty or malicious for over a year and probably more like two. I just don't know why you have to hold onto this grudge you have against me. It's not healthy and it serves no purpose.

Really, seriously, how long are you going to keep this up for?

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-01-2010, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe

Leads me to think they don't see individuals, but a whole cast of people not up to their level.

Cast or caste, do you think?

skysidhe · 12-01-2010, 11:12 PM

damn, that silent e. Now it's invisible too!

Big Sarge · 12-01-2010, 11:21 PM

The soldier violated UCMJ & US Title 18 when he transferred classified documents from SIPR to NIPR. Wikileaks employees/board members can be charged as accessories after the fact or for the actual distribution of classified documents (many of these were SECRET//NOFORN). Jurisdiction was established when the soldier transfered the data from TOC or SCIF and it is regardless where the physical location of recepients was.

In other words, they are in very deep shit.

tw · 12-02-2010, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

In other words, they are in very deep shit.

As should have everyone involved in leaking the Pentagon Papers.

How screwed up is security when a Private in Afghanistan has access to all Pentagon and State Department cables. If he could do it, then they were not secret. And so the question is how many other countries were reading this stuff before WikiLeaks got it.

Most of the stuff I have been reading is basically common knowledge. Material only confirms what most already knew. The real Secret stuff was withheld. In reality, "Secret" means virtually anyone has access. Truely secret material starts at higher security ratings. Those are being withheld by WikiLeaks.

Once we eliminate hype, well, the world is now viewing international politics in a new light. The world now has a better idea which countries have been lying and which ones were actually being honest. For many nations, this means increased credibility.

If prosecuting anyone, start with the fools who simply gave everyone access to everyone - including a US Army Private in Afghanistan.

Reported was that China probably has every plan for every American nuclear warhead. When the accusation was made, it sounded preposterous. If a Private in Afghanistan has access to all this, well then yes, China probably does have all those weapons plans.

Who is trying to divert attention by hyping blame upon Wikileaks?

classicman · 12-02-2010, 07:41 AM

Its Bush's fault. No, seriously. It was during his administration that the sharing of information was decided and implemented.

sexobon · 12-02-2010, 10:28 AM

This thread could have been a clone titled:

Yet more keen leaks one might want to share

Oh well, maybe for the next big security breach.

Shawnee123 · 12-02-2010, 10:29 AM

Everytime I see this thread title, I have to pee.

glatt · 12-02-2010, 10:37 AM

You got a wicked leak?

Shawnee123 · 12-02-2010, 10:39 AM

Yeah, for like...a weeky, almost a monthy.

sexobon · 12-02-2010, 11:05 AM

Well, 'tis the season to wear a peecoat.

Big Sarge · 12-02-2010, 03:08 PM

The soldier has access to the data via SIPR, just like any other analyst. SIPR only in a secured internet for documents/media with a SECRET or less classification. This soldier has a TS/SCI clearance requiring an in depth background check that most of the public can never pass. After getting the clearance, he is then "read-on" for access. None of this is taken lightly.

Large amounts of classified materials are posted on SIPR in order to facilitate analysis. It is the junior enlisted analyst who is tasked with datamining & preliminary link analysis or trend identification.

tw · 12-02-2010, 03:22 PM

Recently seen in a Charlie Chan movie:

I go wiky leaky. 'K boss.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-02-2010, 05:50 PM

Manning, Bradley E. E-3 $1813.20 a month

Charge 1, UCMJ, Article 92, 4 specifications ~ downloading shit to his personal computer, and uploading unauthorized software to the network.

Charge 2, UCMJ, Article 134. 8 specifications ~ 8 exceeding authorized access, 4 gave shit to outsiders, 4 looked at shit he wasn't supposed to, and 8 bringing discredit to the Armed Forces.

busterb · 12-04-2010, 11:12 AM

E-3 $1813.20 a month
Boy what a difference 50 years makes. About $1700 bucks worth.

12-01-2010, 04:24 PM	#76
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I 'showed up' because I was never away. Just because someone doesn't post doesn't mean they're not reading stuff. I'm pretty sick of your bullshit Brianna. Clearly, plenty of others are too. I've not said one word to you which could be in any way construed as nasty or malicious for over a year and probably more like two. I just don't know why you have to hold onto this grudge you have against me. It's not healthy and it serves no purpose. Really, seriously, how long are you going to keep this up for? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-01-2010, 11:21 PM	#79
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	The soldier violated UCMJ & US Title 18 when he transferred classified documents from SIPR to NIPR. Wikileaks employees/board members can be charged as accessories after the fact or for the actual distribution of classified documents (many of these were SECRET//NOFORN). Jurisdiction was established when the soldier transfered the data from TOC or SCIF and it is regardless where the physical location of recepients was. In other words, they are in very deep shit. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

12-02-2010, 07:41 AM	#81
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Its Bush's fault. No, seriously. It was during his administration that the sharing of information was decided and implemented. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-02-2010, 10:29 AM	#83
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Everytime I see this thread title, I have to pee. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-02-2010, 10:39 AM	#85
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Yeah, for like...a weeky, almost a monthy. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-01-2010, 11:12 PM	#78
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	damn, that silent e. Now it's invisible too!

12-02-2010, 10:28 AM	#82
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	This thread could have been a clone titled: Yet more keen leaks one might want to share Oh well, maybe for the next big security breach.

12-02-2010, 10:37 AM	#84
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	You got a wicked leak?

12-02-2010, 11:05 AM	#86
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Well, 'tis the season to wear a peecoat.

12-02-2010, 03:08 PM	#87
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	The soldier has access to the data via SIPR, just like any other analyst. SIPR only in a secured internet for documents/media with a SECRET or less classification. This soldier has a TS/SCI clearance requiring an in depth background check that most of the public can never pass. After getting the clearance, he is then "read-on" for access. None of this is taken lightly. Large amounts of classified materials are posted on SIPR in order to facilitate analysis. It is the junior enlisted analyst who is tasked with datamining & preliminary link analysis or trend identification. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

12-02-2010, 03:22 PM	#88
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Recently seen in a Charlie Chan movie: I go wiky leaky. 'K boss.

12-02-2010, 05:50 PM	#89
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Manning, Bradley E. E-3 $1813.20 a month Charge 1, UCMJ, Article 92, 4 specifications ~ downloading shit to his personal computer, and uploading unauthorized software to the network. Charge 2, UCMJ, Article 134. 8 specifications ~ 8 exceeding authorized access, 4 gave shit to outsiders, 4 looked at shit he wasn't supposed to, and 8 bringing discredit to the Armed Forces. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-04-2010, 11:12 AM	#90
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	E-3 $1813.20 a month Boy what a difference 50 years makes. About $1700 bucks worth. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

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