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Undertoad · 02-28-2003, 09:05 PM

Calling a Microsoft system "Sun" would be bad karma, in theory, but German-izing it makes it OK.

That Guy · 03-01-2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
but German-izing it makes it OK.

Duh:

03-01-2003, 11:43 AM

Yeah, but the system isn't called "Sun". It's called sonne.

nebel was the other choice, but I think that'll be my next system.

elSicomoro · 03-01-2003, 11:45 AM

And yet, you have failed to answer the question posed, you evasive bastard.

"Fog?"

03-01-2003, 02:29 PM

It's not called "sun", and the next one won't be "fog". It's sonne, and the next one will probably be nebel. You're Americanizing it. It doesn't need to be translated. The word is sonne, and the fact that when Germans think "sonne" they think the German equivalent of "that big star that the Earth revolves around" is irrelevant. Don't think of it as "sun", because that's not what its name is.

I picked it because it's easy to pronounce, I like the way it sounds, it's short and it's easy to type. "syphon" means nothing - I just like the spelling and the sound. tier just happened to be an accurate description of the previous computer.

Anyway, don't bother translating the words because that's not why they were picked.

Just read them in German and that's it. Don't think about what they mean.

elSicomoro · 03-01-2003, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
I picked it because it's easy to pronounce, I like the way it sounds, it's short and it's easy to type.

Now see...was that so hard? You could have just said that in the first place. Like I'm a mind reader and know that your computer names don't really have any significance beyond what you mentioned.

Now you're telling me what to think and do...you're like a wife! Like I'm not allowed to ask questions or something...man, you're a real asshole!

juju · 03-01-2003, 03:04 PM

Sonne is easier to type than Sun? And word's don't have meaning if they're co-opted and re-cast as names? Riight..

Man, am I going to get it! :)

03-02-2003, 09:51 AM

"Sonne" does not mean "sun". "Sonne" is a German word. "Sun" is an English word. They describe the same star, but it's not like, when someone was coming up with the word Sonne, they said "Let's make this mean 'the German word for 'sun'.'" Languages don't work like that. "Sonne" is a German word, "Sun" is an English word. "Sun" was never a naming option.

Skunks · 03-02-2003, 10:55 AM

I think, to a degree, you're skirting the issue. Yeah, "sonne" is a name. It's a sound, with 5 letters that correspond to it, that you can use to identify some object. But, "sonne" is also a German word. You may not be saying "this box will be called 'sun', but in German!", but by naming it the same thing as what the Germans named the daystar, I think you create some sort of link that cannot be simply severed with a quick dismissal of the German language.

Just to continue making no point at all, let's take a 100% hypothetical example. Say some people have a daughter, and name her Zoë. Now, that word means 'life' in Greek. Under what situation can they, as you've attempted to do here, disavow the connection to the Greek word? Can they say "yeah, it's a word in Greek, but that's not why we named her that"? Can some other couple do the same, but with, say, 'Asshat'?

CodeBlue40 · 03-02-2003, 05:22 PM

Now, I'm in the process of building a system for the first time. I salvaged a lot of parts from my previous PC. The CD-Rom drive was not one of them. Neither was the floppy drive. I went through newegg.com to buy them both recently. I was going to get a Lite-On CD-ROM drive, (A DVD-ROM drive is a sucker bet.) but I opted for a Mitsumi, like the floppy drive. Was this a bad choice? I mean, I heard about the Lite-On being good, but I guess I just wanted to have the same brand for both of those drives.

03-02-2003, 05:32 PM

Skunks -

Following your example, sycamore would be saying that her name was "life". The name isn't "life". It's "Zoë".

I'm hardly skirting the issue. He asked why it was called "sun" and I said "It's not 'sun'. It's 'sonne'."

Evidently we view language differently. I don't look at other languages as a translation of English. When I think "Sonne", I do not think the English word "sun".

When a Mexican says "Mi casa es su casa", they're not saying "My house is your house." They're saying "Mi casa es su casa".

03-02-2003, 05:32 PM

CodeBlue - you did fine. Don't worry about it.

CodeBlue40 · 03-02-2003, 06:13 PM

I wasn't too worried. I just saw the specs for the system you had posted earlier in the thread. I noticed the Lite-On drive. I'm pretty sure I'll have the system complete by the end of this month. I could go ahead and buy more parts now, but I wanted to jump ahead on some bills. All I really need are the motherboard / cpu and memory. I'm getting a mobo combo and memory at the same time, so no worries there.

I know I'll have to do some upgrades soon after, because my video card is good enough to play games pre-2002. My sound card is by Aureal who went belly-up a few years back, so that's gotta go. I just want to get a system up and running at home.

Thanks again.

03-01-2003, 11:43 AM	#33
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, but the system isn't called "Sun". It's called <b>sonne</b>. <b>nebel</b> was the other choice, but I think that'll be my next system.

03-01-2003, 02:29 PM	#35
dave Guest Posts: n/a	It's not called "sun", and the next one won't be "fog". It's <b>sonne</b>, and the next one will probably be <b>nebel</b>. You're Americanizing it. It doesn't need to be translated. The word is <b>sonne</b>, and the fact that when Germans think "sonne" they think the German equivalent of "that big star that the Earth revolves around" is irrelevant. Don't think of it as "sun", because that's not what its name is. I picked it because it's easy to pronounce, I like the way it sounds, it's short and it's easy to type. "<b>syphon</b>" means nothing - I just like the spelling and the sound. <b>tier</b> just happened to be an accurate description of the previous computer. Anyway, don't bother translating the words because that's not why they were picked. Just read them in German and that's it. Don't think about what they mean.

03-01-2003, 03:04 PM	#37
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Sonne is easier to type than Sun? And word's <i>don't</i> have meaning if they're co-opted and re-cast as names? Riight.. Man, am I going to get it! :)

03-02-2003, 05:22 PM	#40
CodeBlue40 Disorderly Disciplinarian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 21	Now, I'm in the process of building a system for the first time. I salvaged a lot of parts from my previous PC. The CD-Rom drive was not one of them. Neither was the floppy drive. I went through newegg.com to buy them both recently. I was going to get a Lite-On CD-ROM drive, (A DVD-ROM drive is a sucker bet.) but I opted for a Mitsumi, like the floppy drive. Was this a bad choice? I mean, I heard about the Lite-On being good, but I guess I just wanted to have the same brand for both of those drives. __________________ I'm in a world full of naked women and daisies! Nothing can harm me now!

03-02-2003, 06:13 PM	#43
CodeBlue40 Disorderly Disciplinarian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 21	I wasn't too worried. I just saw the specs for the system you had posted earlier in the thread. I noticed the Lite-On drive. I'm pretty sure I'll have the system complete by the end of this month. I could go ahead and buy more parts now, but I wanted to jump ahead on some bills. All I really need are the motherboard / cpu and memory. I'm getting a mobo combo and memory at the same time, so no worries there. I know I'll have to do some upgrades soon after, because my video card is good enough to play games pre-2002. My sound card is by Aureal who went belly-up a few years back, so that's gotta go. I just want to get a system up and running at home. Thanks again. __________________ I'm in a world full of naked women and daisies! Nothing can harm me now!

02-28-2003, 09:05 PM	#31
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Calling a Microsoft system "Sun" would be bad karma, in theory, but German-izing it makes it OK.

03-01-2003, 11:45 AM	#34
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	And yet, you have failed to answer the question posed, you evasive bastard. "Fog?"

03-02-2003, 09:51 AM	#38
dave Guest Posts: n/a	"Sonne" does not mean "sun". "Sonne" is a German word. "Sun" is an English word. They describe the same star, but it's not like, when someone was coming up with the word Sonne, they said "Let's make this mean 'the German word for 'sun'.'" Languages don't work like that. "Sonne" is a German word, "Sun" is an English word. "Sun" was never a naming option.

03-02-2003, 10:55 AM	#39
Skunks I thought I changed this. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: western nowhere, ny Posts: 412	I think, to a degree, you're skirting the issue. Yeah, "sonne" is a name. It's a sound, with 5 letters that correspond to it, that you can use to identify some object. But, "sonne" is also a German word. You may not be saying "this box will be called 'sun', but in German!", but by naming it the same thing as what the Germans named the daystar, I think you create some sort of link that cannot be simply severed with a quick dismissal of the German language. Just to continue making no point at all, let's take a 100% hypothetical example. Say some people have a daughter, and name her Zoë. Now, that word means 'life' in Greek. Under what situation can they, as you've attempted to do here, disavow the connection to the Greek word? Can they say "yeah, it's a word in Greek, but that's not why we named her that"? Can some other couple do the same, but with, say, 'Asshat'?

03-02-2003, 05:32 PM	#41
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Skunks - Following your example, sycamore would be saying that her name was "life". The name isn't "life". It's "Zoë". I'm hardly skirting the issue. He asked why it was called "sun" and I said "It's not 'sun'. It's 'sonne'." Evidently we view language differently. I don't look at other languages as a translation of English. When I think "Sonne", I do not think the English word "sun". When a Mexican says "Mi casa es su casa", they're not saying "My house is your house." They're saying "Mi casa es su casa".

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