Scientology

[Sundae]

Wow - I thought Narc-Anon was a branch of Alcoholics Anonymous, sometimes abbreviated to Alc-Anon. I've never needed it myself, but I will keep an ear out if I hear it mentioned in future. I'd hate for anyone relying on it as a life-saver to end up chained to a mattress bitten by cockroaches - that's the life they're trying to leave!

[Grendel T. Troll]

This is a long post, but it comes from NNTP's alt.religion.scientology:


Part 1:


From: Bob Minton <bobminton@lisatrust.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Demystifying Scientology's Fundamental Reality -- The BT's
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 14:33:32 -0400
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Demystifying Scientology's Fundamental Reality -- The BT's

In Scientology, the information contained in its confidential "upper levels" is
a closely guarded secret. Many people have paid hundreds of thousands of
dollars to reach these levels, only to discover that had they known beforehand
what these upper levels contained, they would not have paid for them. Others
claim that even if they had known, they would have continued in Scientology.
In the interest of full disclosure, we feel that anyone considering getting
into Scientology should know what they can expect for their money.

In the lower levels of Scientology, new Scientologists are taught to believe
that the person or "pre-clear's" behavior and problems are caused by his
"reactive mind." The reactive mind is the term used by Scientologists to
describe a supposed force that causes a person to act irrationally or against
his own best interest. Scientology seeks to convince a person that he needs to
overcome his unknowing obedience to this reactive mind and clear himself of its
influence. A person is promised that when he becomes "clear" of his reactive
mind, he will be free from mental and physical problems. After reaching this
much-touted "State of Clear," a Scientologist is then indoctrinated to believe
that by paying for a further series of expensive "auditing" procedures, he will
eventually attain a state known as "Operating Thetan," or "OT." In Scientology,
one is taught that there is an entity, separate from the body, which is called
a "thetan". One is promised that when the state of OT is attained, one will be
able to fly around at will without one's body. One will be in complete control,
in fact, over the entire physical universe of Matter, Energy, Space and Time.

The OT levels are very secret in Scientology. People spend many thousands of
dollars, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars, to get onto these OT
levels that are supposed to enable one to achieve such phenomenal abilities. No
one has yet been able to exhibit any of these so-called super-human abilities,
which on average cost USD 360,000, but many people are still trying. Some have
been on these upper levels for as long as fifteen to twenty years.

The most important secret of the upper levels is found on OT 3, called the Wall
of Fire in Scientology. It is on this level that one learns the "secrets of the
universe." One learns Hubbard's so-called truth about why human beings are so
limited in their abilities, and what can be done to correct this. Hubbard's
"diagnosis" for the suffering and insanity on this planet is the OT 3 incident
- the "Fourth Dynamic Engram" in Hubbardspeak. Many people characterize this as
the core belief of Scientology but it is not -- it is in fact the entire CORE
of Scientology.

Here is Hubbard's so-called factual and scientific truth that all
Scientologist's must not only accept as reality but experience as reality:

75 million years ago, the galactic overlord for this sector of the galaxy was
called Xenu. He was in charge of 76 planets, including Earth (at that time
known as Teegeeack).

All of the planets Xenu controlled were over-populated by, on average, 178
billion people. Social problems dictated that Xenu rid his sector of the
galaxy of this overpopulation problem, so he developed a plan.

Xenu sent out tax audit demands to all these trillions of people. As each one
entered the audit centers for the income tax inspections, the people were
seized, held down and injected with a mixture of alcohol and glycol, and
frozen. Then, all 13.5 trillion of these frozen people were put into
spaceships that looked exactly like DC8 airplanes, except that the spaceships
had rocket engines instead of propellers.

Xenu's entire fleet of DC8-like spaceships then flew to planet Earth, where
the frozen people were dumped in and around volcanoes in the Canary Islands
and the Hawaiian Islands. When Xenu's Air Force had finished dumping the
bodies into the volcanoes, hydrogen bombs were dropped into the volcanoes and
the frozen space aliens were vaporized.

However, Xenu's plan involved setting up electronic traps in Teegeeack's
atmosphere which were designed to trap the souls or spirits of the dead space
aliens. When the 13.5 trillion spirits were being blown around on the nuclear
winds, the electronic traps worked like a charm and captured all the souls in
the electronic, sticky fly-paper like traps.

The spirits of the aliens were then taken to huge multiplex cinemas that Xenu
had previously instructed his forces to build on Teegeeack. In these movie
theaters the spirits had to spend many days watching special 3-D movies, the
purpose of which was twofold: 1) to implant into these spirits a false
reality, i.e. the reality that WOGS (Hubbard's derisory term for anyone not a
Scientologists) know on Earth today; and, 2) to control these spirits for all
eternity so that they could never cause trouble for Xenu in this sector of the
Galaxy. During these films, many false pictures and stories were implanted
into these spirits, which resulted in the spirits believing in all the things
that control mankind on Earth today, including religion. The concept of
religion, including God, Christ, Mohammed, Moses etc., were all an implanted
false reality that to this very minute are used to control WOGS on Earth.

When the films ended and the souls left the cinema, they started to stick
together in clusters of a few thousand and remained that way until mankind
began to inhabit the Earth. Today on Earth all the spirits of these aliens
have attached themselves to our bodies and are the root cause of the false
reality that all but Scientology's "Homo Novis" or OT 8's on earth experience.
It is the job of all Scientologists to remove this false reality from the
world by auditing each and every space alien spirit and human on earth and the
entire universe to CLEAR. For those who oppose Scientology and stand in their
way like the Lisa McPherson Trust and all Scientology critics, Scientology
promises to do away with them "quietly and without sorrow".

We have calculated that on average, each person on planet earth has 2,209 of
these Body Thetans (BT's for short), Hubbard's term for the alien spirits,
attached to you causing you to be constrained by Xenu's false reality. The
average cost for Scientology to OT 8 is a mere USD 360,000, meaning that each
BT only costs USD 163 to clear. Now that is a bargain if there ever was one.

Hubbard never said the overall cost to the planet would be cheap, but let's
examine it. The planetary cost equation is as follows: 13.5 trillion spirits
times USD 163 equals a mere USD 2,205,000,000,000,000. Just think about
it -- USD 2.2 quadrillion -- WOW!, that's enough to keep Rear Admiral
Miscavige, the current head of Scientology and Marty Rathbun, his number two,
in casino chips for a long time.

To finish the "factual" account, the Loyal Officers of the Marcab Confederation
finally discovered how evil Xenu was and overthrew him. He is now locked away
in a mountain on one of the planets and kept in by a force-field powered by
an eternal battery. Several of Xenu's relatives can often be found on the
internet newsgroup called alt.religion.scientology (or ARS for short) battling
Scientology daily.

Many Scientologists who have left from the highest levels of Scientology have
told us that they have been in a room at Scientology's Sandcastle building in
Clearwater, Florida for 5-7 hours per day for up to 15 years, holding two
asparagus cans together, attached to a primitive lie detector, talking all day
to these dead space aliens. And guess what? You'll never ever finish talking to
dead space aliens until you leave Scientology.

As we said, you are learning about this story in the interest of full
disclosure. If you become involved with Scientology we want you to do so with
your eyes open and fully aware of the sort of material it contains. And, if
you're in Scientology you should know how you will be spending the rest of your
life.

[Grendel T. Troll]

Here is Part 2:



The following comments were made by an ex-Scientology auditor and Case
Supervisor named Caroline Letkeman, who was highly trained (Class IX) to
administer the Scientology "technology" on the Upper Levels of Scientology's
Bridge, including OT3:

Begin quote.

In order for scn (Scientology) to "work" at the upper levels, the person
must accept the OT 3 incident as a literal and factual matter. If the
person does not experience the fragmented condition as a "conscious
and literal fact", or if he cannot accept Hubbard's interpretation of
the psychological phenomena expected at this level, the person is
labeled a "bypassed case" and is sent back to redo his lower levels.
I.e., his psychological state must be such that he can see his
psychological complexes as external autonomous entities, and he must
be able to literally address these entities with the exact volcano
story as given by Hubbard.

There is no getting around this point technically--either the incident
is real and "processible" or the person has not validly made his lower
grades. According to the technical materials of Scientology, there is
no one on this earth who has escaped the incident or who is immune to
its effects. That is why Hubbard labeled it as the "4th dynamic
engram."

Therefore, there is no further Bridge progress possible unless and
until the person can subjectively experience the required
psychological condition and its associated Hubbardian interpretation.

The Scientologist at OT 3 is not addressed on the basis of his
"beliefs" about Hubbard's materials. He is handled on the basis of
Hubbard's "scientific" evaluation of his literal psychological
condition. If the psychological condition of the person at OT 3 is
not sufficiently fragmented and projected outward, he will not be able
to accept the OT 3 incident as given by Hubbard as a valid
interpretation of his condition.

That Scientology publicly protests criticism of their "religious
beliefs" is itself dangerously misleading, in my opinion. Hubbard did
not characterize the OT 3 incident as a "belief"--he taught it as a
factual incident and as a scientifically researched psychological
explanation for the state that OT 3's find themselves in at that
level.

End quote.

If you need to know more about Scientology, start at the following web sites:
http://www.lisatrust.net/ and http://www.xenu.net/ and Scientology's own web
site, http://www.scientology.org/.



We do not object to anyone, Scientologists included, believing in alien
cosmologies and practicing their truly held beliefs or even accepting the
"reality" of those inter-galactic "events" as factual. We do have at least two
problems, however, with Scientology's deception about its alien space opera--

First, Scientology lies when it says that it is compatible with all other
religious beliefs. It cannot be and is not compatible with ANY religious belief
since it clearly teaches that all religion is an implanted false reality. In
fact, any other religious belief by a Scientologist is not even tolerated.
Talk about your faith in Christ or about prayer in an auditing session and off
to the Ethics Officer you will go for some PTS ("Potential Trouble Source")
handling because you are indulging in "other practices". OT3, the level when a
Scientologist learns about the alien cosmology and that religion is an
implanted false reality, obviously ends any possibility of further illusion
that Scientology can be compatible with ANY religious belief.

Second, Scientology keeps its alien cosmology a secret for financial reasons.
A Scientologist is required to go through a gradual progression of expensive
steps before they are allowed to learn about the alien cosmology. They are
told if they learn about it prematurely, it will create a life threatening
situation -- it will give them pneumonia and they might die. We know of no
reports of anyone ever getting pneumonia, much less dying from exposure to
Xenu and the alien story. Hiding the truth about this space opera serves
several functions, including, a) recruitment -- few would join if they were
told about the alien beliefs up front; b) money -- holding back the
information buys time to collect more money from a recruit before the
colorful information is revealed; c) control -- holding back the information
allows Scientology to use the "tech" to indoctrinate and induce a person not
to bolt when they do hear the alien story.

This entire cover-up of this alien cosmology in Scientology is all about
deception, lies and money.

The Lisa McPherson Trust's mission is to expose the abusive and deceptive
practices of Scientology and help those who have been victimized by it.
Clearly, the deception and lies surrounding the alien cosmology is something
we must stand up against. Let me make this clear: it is not the alien
cosmology itself that we object to; it is the deception and lies surrounding
it.

We are all well aware that Hubbard wrote all the policies used by
Scientology management today which are at the heart of the entire war that
Scientology has declared on its critics. Hubbard wrote the "Manual of
Dissemination," for example, in which he instructed his followers that the
purpose of a lawsuit is to harass, not to win. He also wrote the "Manual of
Justice," in which he says that a reporter who dares to write anything critical
about Scientology should be harassed and intimidated until he shudders into
silence. He also wrote "Attacks on Scientology, Additional Policy Letter," in
which he details how to destroy the reputation of anyone who is critical of
Scientology. There are many, many others, including the vilest of Hubbard's
policies, the "Fair Game" policy which has been in continuous use by
Scientology since it was written in 1967. Current management is revising these
Hubbard policies for the reprints of the OEC and Tech volumes for legal and PR
reasons, because Miscavige and his lawyers don't want the public to know how
rabidly insane and vindictive Hubbard really was. But these are Hubbard
policies, without any doubt. Current management continues to apply the original
versions of these directives, but do not delude yourself that it was
anyone but L. Ron Hubbard who wrote them.

We have spent many hours with former Scientologists all over the world and
have never hidden our feelings about Hubbard. To politely summarize those
feelings, we think Hubbard was a sinister con man and believe that the vast
majority of people who know anything about him share this view. While Miscavige
may be seen as a monster, he is merely a proxy for carrying out the evil
policies of L. Ron Hubbard. Miscavige is definitely not "misapplying" the evil
parts of Hubbard's tech -- we believe he is using them just as Hubbard
intended.

Further, we believe the creed of Scientology has many noble elements to it but
think the creed is a fraud because Scientology and most Scientologists do not
act in accordance with their creed. The creed is pure PR and Scientology and
most Scientologists are hypocrites. A simple example of this hypocrisy is that
their creed says that all men have an inalienable right to free speech, yet in
practice that right is only supported by the organization when the speech is
laudatory of Scientology. Otherwise you are publicly labeled a bigot and
hatemonger and the fair game policies are applied against you.

One of the most difficult aspects of recovering from Scientology seems to be
former members coming to terms with their irresponsibility while they were in
Scientology. Over and over we have had ex-Scientologists say to us, "I didn't
know about all these bad things going on in the organization," only to come
back later and admit that they just didn't want to see it. Former Scientologists
regret that they had bought into the management's lies so thoroughly that they
couldn't see what was going on all around them. Many ex-Scientologists have
told us that it was simply a lot easier not to have to take responsibility for
these things. But everyone in the organization is responsible for what the
organization is doing.

Remember that Scientology breeds irresponsibility and that Scientologists
become addicted to that irresponsibility. What else could happen when
throughout your experience in Scientology firstly it's "Engrams" and your
reactive mind that are the root cause of your problems; then it's space aliens
(BT's); then when you think you have eliminated all your BT's you discover
you've got drugged BT's, then sleeping BT's, then unconscious BT's and finally
you find that the entirety of the physical universe is a false reality that can
be done away with by auditing even more BT's so that you are able to step out
of the physical universe and be above matter, energy, space and time.

[Grendel T. Troll]

And, Finally, Part 3:



To better understand how Scientology works, go to the lisatrust.net website and
read two articles by Stacy Brooks concerning auditing and how Scientology views
the family. These articles can be found at the following,
http://www.lisatrust.net/Tech.htm and http://www.lisatrust.net/Family.htm,
respectively. Then, in combination with the previous articles, read the
outstanding Cartesian Award winning essay by Erik Snead at
http://www.lisatrust.net/literaticon...00/00erik.html to get an
insight into how this addiction to irresponsibility happens.

Scientology perpetrates fraud, abuse, deception and mind control on its
adherents. These actions violate not only the law but also the human rights and
civil rights of its members. Further, Scientology abhors criticism so much that
it misuses the mantle of religion to promote and justify hatred and bigotry by
its members, attorneys, private investigators and cult apologists towards
critics.

We will defend the right of anyone to practice any truly held belief they
choose. After all, the U.S. Constitution, the U.N.'s Declaration of Human
Rights and other noteworthy national documents grant this basic freedom to
everyone. However, nothing gives people or institutions the right to engage in
behavior that violates other peoples' rights or the law, even if they do so in
the name of religious motivation.

Bob Minton

August 3, 2001

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I actually think Hubbard is possibly the worst sci-fi writer ever published. Deeply trashy, formulaic space adventures or low rent fantasy worlds, all usually have something to offer. Hubbard's stuff was unreadable.

Might be... but in the MST3K-able literature, there were such as one Pel Torro -- I read two of his books in disbelief and with no pleasure, and was imprudent enough to buy and read something in paperback called Solo Kill by someone claiming his name was S. Kye Boult. Yes, it was an aviation/science fiction piece. No, it was no good. Worse than John Norman.

They did well to hide behind pseudonyms, but their works are not silly enough to get out aloud as a contest in science fiction conventions, so even that fame is denied them.

[DanaC]

*chuckles* I'll be sure to avoid those authors, thanks for the heads up

[xoxoxoBruce]

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Holy crap--Narconon is the Scientologists? I had no idea. (I thought it was "Narcanon," but google seems to say they're the same thing.)

It is and it is not effective at all, their numbers are lower than those who try to quit on their own.
At least AA is the same as those who quit on their own.
Religion is a bad substitute for another addiction... send your friends to a real program that uses behavioral replacement therapy and teaches them their triggers and how to deal with them.

[wolf]

I think scientology learned a lot from the early Catholic church ... the more money you have, the closer you are to enlightenment/heaven/clear.

One of my friends supposedly had a Scientology hit-team after him because of his success at extricating people from their clutches. He laughs about it saying that they were looking for him in Sidney while he was in Perth.

The biggest trick Scientology ever pulled was buying out CAN ... the Cult Awareness Network. They still maintain good information on a lot of cults, but deny that Scientology is a cult.

[TheMercenary]

These are important discussions. People should learn the truth about these hoaxters.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by DanaC

*chuckles* I'll be sure to avoid those authors, thanks for the heads up

Okay, I bit the beebee and googled Pel Torro -- the 'Net is a wonderful gratifier of morbid curiosities -- and found it one of many pen names of one Robert Lionel Fanthorpe, a harmless-looking Britisher...

Pel Torro among other picks for worst-ever novelwriting, and the choices vary wildly according to literary taste, but there are assorted useful links there.

One chucklehead thought Time Enough For Love was about the worst -- can't see it myself -- but quite a few of the usual suspects showed up in the list. L. Ron You-Know-Who came in for a lot of it, with some mentions of Dune and parts thereof, and a bunch of the usual suspects. Alan Dean Foster is somebody to write better than -- if he can get published, you can too. I didn't happen to see if anyone nominated late Christopher Stasheff -- the poor man seems to have lost his touch.

[DanaC]

Time enough for Love was a great book! I loved that story. Right down to the spanking scene....good ol' Heinlein....'unreconstructed' comes to mind :P

[Sundae]

I read an Alan Dean Foster when I was quite young. One was enough.