The pretzel that toppled a President ...

Nic Name · 01-14-2002, 03:56 PM

Chevy Chase made a career out of impersonating Gerald Ford falling down, a trademark of his presidency.

But all kidding aside (although SNL won't leave this one alone) it is mind numbing to think that George W. Bush's life and this presidency might have ended with the twist of a pretzel.

How easily he might have hit his head and died in this fall.

Check out the bruise!

Frightening, at this time in history, to think of the President dying in a freak accident at home.

elSicomoro · 01-14-2002, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Nic Name
But all kidding aside (although SNL won't leave this one alone) it is mind numbing to think that George W. Bush's life and this presidency might have ended with the twist of a pretzel.

How easily he might have hit his head and died in this fall.

I wonder how often things like this occur. Probably more often than we're told.

01-14-2002, 04:46 PM

Presidentially? You think?

Bush has kept what I think to be a pretty open presidency. He seems pretty forthcoming about stuff like this. Of course, it'd be damn hard to hide that bruise too, so maybe that's why they came out with it...

I wonder how often Secret Service agents have walked in on Presidents and their First Ladies doing "the deed"... Or some other embarassing stuff like that - pinching a particularly un-soft loaf, maybe. Hehe. Seriously - how much are we not told about? These are good things to hear!

Seriously though, I'm glad he's alright.

elSicomoro · 01-14-2002, 05:13 PM

This reminds me in a way of The Newseum, and an exhibit they had in 2000 about the press. The ads at the time mentioned how FDR fell during a speech, yet most of the general public knew nothing about it. Then they mentioned how much coverage Bob Dole's fall got in 1996.

How long did it take before we found out about Lewinsky? What, a year or so? That's a whole different ballgame, but I am fairly certain there are lots of things that go on at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW that we don't know about. From the mundane to the disturbing, I'd imagine.

I'm glad he's okay too, but I wonder if he was rooting for the Niners in that SF-GB game.

jaguar · 01-14-2002, 05:38 PM

What can i say? argh so close!

Nic Name · 01-14-2002, 05:47 PM

Didn't his dad pass out into a plate of Pad Gai in Japan?

True.

Chewbaccus · 01-14-2002, 06:57 PM

Pass out in, no. Chew, swallow, mix with bile, and regurgitate into the Japanese Prime Minister's lap, yes.

~mike

Griff · 01-14-2002, 07:17 PM

This is actually a great oportunity for wild accusations of cover ups and a chance for conspiracy mongering. IMHO W is the victim of ongoing spousal abuse, don't y'all remember the "lesion" which was removed a while back? Keep your eye on the ball folks these oportunities don't come every day.

Undertoad · 01-14-2002, 07:31 PM

The Secret Service should turn a completely blind eye to everything that happens. Their job is to protect the President, and reporting the guy's behavior and decisions is absolutely in direct conflict with that job.

This includes that SS agent who turned on Clinton. He may be an utterly reprehensible scumbag. But he's the elected President. He can't stop to think whether a politically unpopular decision or behavior may get him killed. He's in there on our behalf. Maybe he's got a weak personality and lots of personal failings. As long as he's upholding the constitution - whatever version of the constitution the courts see fit today, anyway - the SS has to protect him.

01-14-2002, 11:05 PM

I agree with you. But I'd be willing to bet that an SS agent walked in on SOMETHING happening at least once.

Apparently (I'm probably wrong on this), the Presidential Bedroom is the only room in the White House without cameras. I'd say that's a good thing, 'cause you don't want your love for anal sex to cost you the re-election. However, I gotta wonder exactly how they guard it - i.e., can guards hear in there? What if I was in there and some dude had broken in and was trying to strangle me? How would they know? Just curiosity, mainly - one must prepare for one's run in 2016.

elSicomoro · 01-14-2002, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by dhamsaic
How would they know? Just curiosity, mainly - one must prepare for one's run in 2016.

If I understand correctly, there is a panic button in each room that can be used to alert someone (I assume the SS) to trouble.

jaguar · 01-14-2002, 11:39 PM

And getting in though the window etc i guess would involve circumnavigating some pretty tough stuff security wise anyway, electronic and human.

01-15-2002, 08:04 AM

Yes. The White House perimeter is guarded by SS agents whose credo is "Shoot First. Ask Questions Later." No joke.

If they see you at night, BAM! They don't bother introducing themselves.

I wonder if there's multiple panic buttons. If I'm in the john, sure, I only need one. But a Presidential Bedroom, that merits at least 2. Big room, ya know? Don't want to have to jog to get to it.

ladysycamore · 01-16-2002, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by Griff
This is actually a great oportunity for wild accusations of cover ups and a chance for conspiracy mongering. IMHO W is the victim of ongoing spousal abuse, don't y'all remember the "lesion" which was removed a while back? Keep your eye on the ball folks these oportunities don't come every day.

Conspriacy Theories, eh?

They say that beer and pretzels go great together during a football game.

Griff · 01-16-2002, 07:58 AM

he he

I'd say the beer and pretzels conspired to get W through the weak sister weekend of NFL spectacle. The serious teams will play this weekend.

01-14-2002, 03:56 PM	#1
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	The pretzel that toppled a President ... Chevy Chase made a career out of impersonating Gerald Ford falling down, a trademark of his presidency. But all kidding aside (although SNL won't leave this one alone) it is mind numbing to think that George W. Bush's life and this presidency might have ended with the twist of a pretzel. How easily he might have hit his head and died in this fall. Check out the bruise! Frightening, at this time in history, to think of the President dying in a freak accident at home. Last edited by Nic Name; 01-14-2002 at 03:59 PM.

01-14-2002, 05:38 PM	#5
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	What can i say? argh so close! __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

01-14-2002, 06:57 PM	#7
Chewbaccus Freethinker/booter Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 523	Pass out in, no. Chew, swallow, mix with bile, and regurgitate into the Japanese Prime Minister's lap, yes. ~mike __________________ Like the wise man said: Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

01-14-2002, 07:17 PM	#8
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	C'mon guys! This is actually a great oportunity for wild accusations of cover ups and a chance for conspiracy mongering. IMHO W is the victim of ongoing spousal abuse, don't y'all remember the "lesion" which was removed a while back? Keep your eye on the ball folks these oportunities don't come every day.

01-14-2002, 11:39 PM	#12
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	And getting in though the window etc i guess would involve circumnavigating some pretty tough stuff security wise anyway, electronic and human. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

01-14-2002, 04:46 PM	#3
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Presidentially? You think? Bush has kept what I think to be a pretty open presidency. He seems pretty forthcoming about stuff like this. Of course, it'd be damn hard to hide that bruise too, so maybe that's why they came out with it... I wonder how often Secret Service agents have walked in on Presidents and their First Ladies doing "the deed"... Or some other embarassing stuff like that - pinching a particularly un-soft loaf, maybe. Hehe. Seriously - how much are we not told about? These are good things to hear! Seriously though, I'm glad he's alright.

01-14-2002, 05:13 PM	#4
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	This reminds me in a way of The Newseum, and an exhibit they had in 2000 about the press. The ads at the time mentioned how FDR fell during a speech, yet most of the general public knew nothing about it. Then they mentioned how much coverage Bob Dole's fall got in 1996. How long did it take before we found out about Lewinsky? What, a year or so? That's a whole different ballgame, but I am fairly certain there are lots of things that go on at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW that we don't know about. From the mundane to the disturbing, I'd imagine. I'm glad he's okay too, but I wonder if he was rooting for the Niners in that SF-GB game.

01-14-2002, 05:47 PM	#6
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Didn't his dad pass out into a plate of Pad Gai in Japan? True.

01-14-2002, 07:31 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The Secret Service should turn a completely blind eye to everything that happens. Their job is to protect the President, and reporting the guy's behavior and decisions is absolutely in direct conflict with that job. This includes that SS agent who turned on Clinton. He may be an utterly reprehensible scumbag. But he's the elected President. He can't stop to think whether a politically unpopular decision or behavior may get him killed. He's in there on our behalf. Maybe he's got a weak personality and lots of personal failings. As long as he's upholding the constitution - whatever version of the constitution the courts see fit today, anyway - the SS has to protect him.

01-14-2002, 11:05 PM	#10
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I agree with you. But I'd be willing to bet that an SS agent walked in on SOMETHING happening at least once. Apparently (I'm probably wrong on this), the Presidential Bedroom is the only room in the White House without cameras. I'd say that's a good thing, 'cause you don't want your love for anal sex to cost you the re-election. However, I gotta wonder exactly how they guard it - i.e., can guards hear in there? What if I was in there and some dude had broken in and was trying to strangle me? How would they know? Just curiosity, mainly - one must prepare for one's run in 2016.

01-15-2002, 08:04 AM	#13
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Yes. The White House perimeter is guarded by SS agents whose credo is "Shoot First. Ask Questions Later." No joke. If they see you at night, BAM! They don't bother introducing themselves. I wonder if there's multiple panic buttons. If I'm in the john, sure, I only need one. But a Presidential Bedroom, that merits at least 2. Big room, ya know? Don't want to have to jog to get to it.

01-16-2002, 07:58 AM	#15
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	he he I'd say the beer and pretzels conspired to get W through the weak sister weekend of NFL spectacle. The serious teams will play this weekend.

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