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Old 06-15-2005, 11:12 AM   #1
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Dot's in the first square to the NE of the axes.

I have issues with the validity of the questions -- at least half of them didn't give me an option that reflected my true feelings on their subjects.
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:45 AM   #2
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and as they told me when i said the same thing... we are all being judged by the same questions, so while the results may not be exactly accurate, within the cellar they can accurately represent where we are in relation to each other. er, something.



ever have one of those days where things make perfect sense in your head, but you can't quite put it into the printed word? welcome to my life.
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:48 AM   #3
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It's a pretty big-ass arrow *I* have too. And look which way it's pointing! Sh*t, I guess I my check to Michael Moore bounced.
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Old 06-15-2005, 02:41 PM   #4
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Leave it to Radar to make another wonderful interpretation of things.
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Old 06-15-2005, 02:50 PM   #5
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*dueling banjos*
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Old 06-15-2005, 02:49 PM   #6
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So you can be either a commie, an anarchist, a fascist or a (sound of trumpets) libertarian.

How wonderfully simple. The point of the test was to define us more broadly than the one-dimensional left/right standard allows for, and it has succeeded! Now there are 4 categories of people! The man's a genius.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:18 PM   #7
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Man, Radar would miss a joke if it slapped him in the face and called his mother a whore.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:50 PM   #8
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Man, Radar would miss a joke if it slapped him in the face and called his mother a whore.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:49 PM   #9
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:08 AM   #10
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I think I ended up in fascist territory because I don't support the decriminalization of drug use and generally uphold the rule of law.

I think the test is indeed skewed.

Nah. I'm just foolin'. I really am a fascist.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:15 AM   #11
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speaking of fascists... if you've seen my photos then you know i have a shaved head. i started growing the moustache and goat out a week ago, something i haven't done in a couple of years.

today a guy i have met only twice walks up and asks if i'm racist because i "look alot like that guy from American History X."

you should have seen his face when i replied "yes, as a matter of fact i am. after i'm done having a beer with my good friend _____ (happens to be mexican) I am going to take him outside, spread his mouth on a curb and kick in his skull. If you want to watch you can help me carry his carcass to the nearest oven. how's that sound?"

he was still pale, shaking, and trying to pick up his jaw when i walked away. my mexican friend was still wiping tears from his eyes several hours later.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:17 AM   #12
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I think I ended up in fascist territory because I don't support the decriminalization of drug use and generally uphold the rule of law.

I think the test is indeed skewed.

Nah. I'm just foolin'. I really am a fascist.
Don't support the de-criminilization of drug use? That's interesting. By what legitimate authority do you think the government has any say in what drugs, foods, medical procedures, etc. people choose?

The government derives it's limited powers from the consent of the governed. This means that government can have no powers that we as individuals don't have to grant to the government.

As an individual, you have no legitimate authority to tell any other person what foods they can eat, medical procedures they may or may not have, or what drugs they can or can't take. The only thing you can do is prevent people from endangering YOU, but not from endangering themselves.

No matter what claims are made, the truth is if a person merely uses drugs, they are not endangering anyone but themselves. If they use drugs and then get behind the wheel of a car, an airplane, etc. or perform surgery, they actually are endangering others. The crime isn't using the drugs, the crime is endangering others.

If you don't have the legitimate power to tell someone else what drugs they may or may not take (and you don't), you may not grant this power to government; nor may a thousand of you, a million of you, or a hundred million of you. You have zero authority to tell anyone what drugs they may or may not take. Zero times a billion is still zero.

To tell another person what they must or must not do with their own body is to claim that you have more ownership of their body than they do.

"Society" is nothing more than a collection of individuals. "Society" has no rights; only individuals do, and the rights of an individual over their own body, minds, and lives supercedes all else including the collective desires of individuals calling themselves "society" or "government".

In otherwords, the U.S. government has no more authority to tell you whether or not you may take drugs, than you do of telling everyone in America they must use crack cocaine everyday.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:03 PM   #13
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If you don't have the legitimate power to tell someone else what drugs they may or may not take (and you don't), you may not grant this power to government; nor may a thousand of you, a million of you, or a hundred million of you. You have zero authority to tell anyone what drugs they may or may not take. Zero times a billion is still zero.
There's your trouble. I don't believe this statement. It's the sort of thing that sounds nice but doesn't fly.

Here's a simple example. A group of you are going out to dinner. Does any one of you have the right to tell the others where they can eat? No. But the majority will probably have their way. And the dissenters will go along or secede.
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Old 06-24-2005, 06:18 PM   #14
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Don't support the de-criminilization of drug use?
Nope. Unlike most of the people (typically the NORML crowd) I know the really bad down side of what fun drugs can do to you.
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:10 PM   #15
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Nope. Unlike most of the people (typically the NORML crowd) I know the really bad down side of what fun drugs can do to you.
Yes, but everyone knows the bad side of tobacco, gambling, and alcohol, and still we allow it.

I just think that criminalization and incarceration is not working. I'm not suggesting crystal meth be sold at Wal-Mart, but for marijuana I'd rather see the same solutions we apply to alcohol. Prohibition isn't working. The crackdown on medical marijuana is an example of how ludicrous the system has become.

The $20-30 it costs to incarcerate someone could treat a larger number of out-patient addicts.
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