May 30, 2008: Uncontacted Indigenous People - Page 11

jinx · 06-06-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Interestingly, it seems to be the forum's liberals who advocate - or at least suggest - leaving them alone. No-one has yet addressed the issue that they are in a remote location, with no money and nothing viable to trade, so how will the modern world benefit them? Oh of course, they suck off the Government teat. It's odd to hear those with more right wing views than me espouse that.

Hey, don't lump me in with the god damn liberal hippy freaks on this board. I'm currently registered republican I'll have you know...

Cicero · 06-06-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

Hey, don't lump me in with the god damn liberal hippy freaks on this board. I'm currently registered republican I'll have you know...

A "rippy" if, you will...

I don't know who I'm being "lumped" in with, but suffice it to say if I have no party affiliation, no one can claim it for me.

My party does not currently exist.

You should interrupt their lives with modern medicine. They aren't safe!! lol!!!

They could die. Ludicrous!

They should contract one of our diseases so we can cure it, for their safety? Is this sound logic? We should cure them of "the bloody flux"? Do they even have that? Do they have the plague? The black death? This is a revisit to the time once again we came to "help savages". They don't know what they are doing until we give them small pox or something. We should give them whiskey too, fuck it. Maybe some narcotics to cure their "savageitis".
:p

They don't look like they've been paying any taxes. Assholes. Put them in jail.

dar512 · 06-06-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

My party does not currently exist.

Cicero. Cicero. Party of one. Cicero. Your platform is ready.

HungLikeJesus · 06-06-2008, 10:51 PM

I wonder if the American Indians are better off since they were "contacted" by Europeans. And what about the Australian Aborigines?

xoxoxoBruce · 06-06-2008, 11:08 PM

Just because "we" haven't contacted them, doesn't necessarily mean they haven't been in contact with neighboring tribes or that they are unaware there are people of different colors/cultures out there. Maybe they don't give a shit.

If they are threatened by loggers, I don't see the value of warning them, warn the damn loggers to leave them alone.

smoothmoniker · 06-06-2008, 11:09 PM

They weren't contacted, they were colonized. Nobody has suggested that we do that here. But, if that's the straw man you'd like to set on fire, by all means, go right ahead.

DanaC · 06-07-2008, 04:49 AM

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We should give them whiskey too, fuck it. Maybe some narcotics to cure their "savageitis".

*chuckles* savageitis, i like that.

Flint · 06-07-2008, 11:22 AM

You like to hear the sound of your keyboard going clickety-clickety-clack, don't you?

Of course, there's nothing pig-headedly arrogant about making decisions you know nothing about for people you know nothing about.

Undertoad · 06-07-2008, 11:23 AM

Well that response is a fine substitute for thinking.

Flint · 06-07-2008, 11:27 AM

And going around in completely disconnected circles was getting us...where?

I get his point. He's right because he's right, and his rightness is a rightness that doesn't have to be explained or examined.

smoothmoniker · 06-07-2008, 11:38 AM

yes, that's basically exactly what I said. I certainly didn't clarify and defend a substantive idea with direct bearing on the conversation about infant mortality and modern medicine.

Sundae · 06-07-2008, 11:42 AM

Neither did you explain how people with no money get modern medicine on the borders of countries that can't provide their existing citizens with life saving medicines or clean water.

smoothmoniker · 06-07-2008, 12:02 PM

"Ma'am, your babies keep dying because you shit upstream from where you drink."

Just one example of how a modern medical idea might help save lives, without the need for money or evil pharmaceuticals. We can brainstorm some others, if you like.

Sundae · 06-07-2008, 12:03 PM

Oh sorry. I thought they were uncontacted, not stupid.

jinx · 06-07-2008, 12:07 PM

If they're that stupid, and their babies keep dying - how is it that they exist at all?

06-06-2008, 10:51 PM	#4
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I wonder if the American Indians are better off since they were "contacted" by Europeans. And what about the Australian Aborigines? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

06-06-2008, 11:08 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Just because "we" haven't contacted them, doesn't necessarily mean they haven't been in contact with neighboring tribes or that they are unaware there are people of different colors/cultures out there. Maybe they don't give a shit. If they are threatened by loggers, I don't see the value of warning them, warn the damn loggers to leave them alone. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-06-2008, 11:09 PM	#6
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	They weren't contacted, they were colonized. Nobody has suggested that we do that here. But, if that's the straw man you'd like to set on fire, by all means, go right ahead. __________________ to live and die in LA

06-07-2008, 11:22 AM	#8
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	You like to hear the sound of your keyboard going clickety-clickety-clack, don't you? Of course, there's nothing pig-headedly arrogant about making decisions you know nothing about for people you know nothing about. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-07-2008, 11:27 AM	#10
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	And going around in completely disconnected circles was getting us...where? I get his point. He's right because he's right, and his rightness is a rightness that doesn't have to be explained or examined. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-07-2008, 11:23 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well that response is a fine substitute for thinking.

06-07-2008, 11:38 AM	#11
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	yes, that's basically exactly what I said. I certainly didn't clarify and defend a substantive idea with direct bearing on the conversation about infant mortality and modern medicine. __________________ to live and die in LA

06-07-2008, 11:42 AM	#12
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Neither did you explain how people with no money get modern medicine on the borders of countries that can't provide their existing citizens with life saving medicines or clean water. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

06-07-2008, 12:02 PM	#13
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	"Ma'am, your babies keep dying because you shit upstream from where you drink." Just one example of how a modern medical idea might help save lives, without the need for money or evil pharmaceuticals. We can brainstorm some others, if you like. __________________ to live and die in LA

06-07-2008, 12:03 PM	#14
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Oh sorry. I thought they were uncontacted, not stupid. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

06-07-2008, 12:07 PM	#15
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	If they're that stupid, and their babies keep dying - how is it that they exist at all? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

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