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I don't hold with treating others differently based on the color of their skin. But I think that goes both ways. Is there an American Indian award? How about a German-American award? The list could go on. Why not have a distinguished student award, and call it a day? Then the issue would never have arisen.
Another thing is the play on words that, I think, was intended on the PC term "African American". There are a lot of shades of people from Africa. Would the issue be different if the posters were of a student from Egypt? This is the kind of nonsense you can get into when you try to treat symptoms instead of problems. People have to learn to see all people as brothers. Are we there yet? Not by a darn sight. Was the school's response helpful. I don't think so. If they want to honor MLK day. Why don't they give an award to the student (white, black, or in between) who best exemplifies the principles he stood for? |
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01-22-2004, 03:07 PM | #5 |
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I think if people want racism to go away, the first thing that must go is "racial pride".
That means affirmative action must go, that means "negro college fund" must go, that means "hisoricaly black" colleges must go and things like "Society of Black Engineers" and awards that only "Affrican Americans" are eligble for. It's sickening frankly. You ever seen a "white college fund" or a "Society of White Engineers"? |
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I find this incredibly amusing, as the awardee was probably the ONLY actual African-American in the class.
His other classmates were Americans. (I think I've ranted on the hyphenated American thing before, so I'll stop here.)
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01-28-2004, 01:14 PM | #10 |
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Right. Because only black people are truly affected by racism. And any black people who DO say such things are anything from abberations to hypocrites (if they've benefited from that which they oppose) to race traitors, right?
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But I didn't see any racism in this story. At least, I didn't see the racism you saw in it. I saw some kids trying to make a joke about political correctness, racial terminology and maybe reverse racism. If only African-Americans are allowed to get this award, isn't that racism of another sort? I'd like to see a world where all people are able to succeed based solely on their merits, not on their skin color, nation of origin, or choice of religion (or lack of religion for that matter). |
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01-28-2004, 03:18 PM | #13 |
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I think I can honestly say that I am affected by racism when I get a smaller scholarship and am eligble for fewer scholarships simply because I'm white.
But of course thats not your idea of racism....no no no. Thats affirmative action! Here's a little something for you. When I started my freshment year at Drexel in Information Systems in 2000, we have about 30 black/hispanic students with massive scholarships. It is now my 4th year (5 year program), fairly sure only about 10 of those are left. It gets better, they all had scholarships of some sort - yet the ones that I talked to had lesser SAT scores and school GPA than a friend of mine who had NO scholarship. I'm not trying to say that black/hispanic studnets are stupid. I know they're not. But they do get the "easy" way in, get more benifits and yet claim to be oppressed. They get into colleges with lesser grades, lesser desire to learn, get scholarships and then drop out. Those 20 spots could have been filled by more deserving students and the money could have been better distributed. Yeah I don't know racism at all... Last edited by FileNotFound; 01-28-2004 at 03:23 PM. |
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01-28-2004, 05:58 PM | #15 |
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Why can't we all just be Americans? What ever happened to American pride? I thought there was this huge fight for integration a couple decades back and all these black thises and negro thats are just segregating the nation. Why can't there just be awards for outstanding students where ALL students can participate and not just the blacks? It's sad, just sad.
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