Guns don't kill people ....

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

California found 66% of the battered women in shelters had been intimidated with a gun.

For that to be even a remotely useful statistic you should probably ask how many were threatened with a legally owned gun. I'm certain some of them were, maybe even a large percentage. I'm also confident that anyone who batters his wife would be just as likely to use his hand, frying pan, or wrench.

Those are strawman arguments setup so you can say, "if we had tougher gun laws or better yet no guns, no women would be abused". *buzzzzz* Thanks for playing, but guess again.

People kill each other. They've done it for a long time and apparently without guns if you believe the whole Cain v Abel bit.