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Old 11-15-2019, 02:57 PM   #241
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FFS. Here's Jordan Hall's piece where he describes the Blue Church. I can't do it near justice.
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:05 PM   #242
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These are the core concepts to understand the Blue Church.
corrected: how *human civilization* works

WHY IS IT B L U E ? ? ?

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it solves the problem of 20th Century social complexity through the use of mass media to generate manageable social coherence.
WHY IS IT B L U E ? ? ?
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:32 PM   #243
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As it turns out, this fact played an important role in precisely how the Blue Church came to be, why it ended up allied with the Democratic Establishment and why it chose the particular content of the Faith. More on that in the next post perhaps.
PERHAPS !!! maybe not though
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:42 PM   #244
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If you feel like you are in a position to help the small group of people who are gathering around trying to at least begin to ask the right questions, drop me a line.
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Old 11-15-2019, 04:35 PM   #245
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smarter than me is all i know
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Old 11-15-2019, 04:38 PM   #246
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welp. I guess that is the key measure lol
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:55 AM   #247
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And anyway, Ngo's claim wasn't that his injuries were from quikrete milkshakes.

Ngo's claim was that his injuries were from fiberglass-reinforced tactical combat gloves.

It will be up to everyone to look at his skull bleeding from multiple locations to work out for yourselves whether that's true.

You could also watch the footage from the previous rally a few months earlier, where he was sprayed directly in the eyes and face with bear repellant.

None of the propagators of this violence have been charged or ever arrested.

Now apparently being against this sort of thing puts me on the "other side". :eyeroll: Appalling.

This is why I don't vote: I see the game y'all are enjoying so well, and I think it's the most horrible and dangerous thing I've ever seen in this culture. I will not be a direct part of that.

Well, whatever you do, don't think your opinions keep you safe from this violence visiting your house. That's not how the mob works. It only takes one person in the mob to turn on you, and the fiberglass-reinforced tactical combat gloves will be on your skull.

Your only defense, and you should be engaging that defense right now, is to be against the use of fiberglass-reinforced tactical combat gloves. Or plain old dairy milkshakes. Or ANY sort of violence. First and foremost. Don't make your first priority working out how somehow it's okay. It's not okay.

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Old 11-17-2019, 11:01 AM   #248
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He was just filming them. It's not okay.

If you want to make it about sides, both "sides" brought stuff to shoot the other side. One side brought a camera.

If you want violent revolution, seriously, GFYS.

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Old 11-17-2019, 11:25 AM   #249
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This is why I don't vote: I see the game y'all are enjoying so well, and I think it's the most horrible and dangerous thing I've ever seen in this culture. I will not be a direct part of that.
And this helps how?
When they came for the journalists I did nothing... you know the rest.
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:33 AM   #250
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Treating all opposition as "they" is the far far far bigger problem.
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:56 AM   #251
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Yeah, I'll buy that, it makes dialog impossible.
But going to the polling place and standing outside singing Kumbaya is better than nothing.
If you don't vote they win, doesn't matter which they.
I think your position shows the advantage of living large which won't be changed by the outcome. We wring our hands and quiver with predictions of the end of civilization as we know it, when in truth we vote and go home to the same life regardless of who wins. Damn few are affected in the short term by the results, and short term is the concern of most Americans.
Would you stay home from the poll if one of the candidates swore to take away Katkeeper's Social Security and medicare?
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:14 PM   #252
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Outcome won't change things: precisely;

And it's funny: no candidate would ever suggest touching Social Security and Medicare... in the time I've watched, they remain pretty untouched... but every election season I've paid attention to, the sides work out how to suggest the other side will fuck them up. It's all about the sides!
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:24 PM   #253
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True, but the threat that people might vote keeps so much money moving and so many people employed it's good for the economy.

I know SS and Medicare are always a football but both them and us know the shitstorm that would result by fucking with either.
That's why I worded that to be a definite threat to Mom so would likely prompt you to action.

But today it doesn't matter, only your birthday matters, and you'll probably get laid tonight too. Woo Woo!
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:36 PM   #254
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Sorry. Yes, if a candidate actually threatened either I would be motivated to actually vote against them.
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:03 PM   #255
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… Ngo's claim was that his injuries were from fiberglass-reinforced tactical combat gloves.

It will be up to everyone to look at his skull bleeding from multiple locations to work out for yourselves whether that's true.

You could also watch the footage from the previous rally a few months earlier, where he was sprayed directly in the eyes and face with bear repellant.
Really! He couldn't wear a sports helmet and surplus gas mask while filming? These things are cheap and they work. I thought everyone knew that violent actors can infiltrate peaceful demonstrations to further their personal agendas. You make this guy sound stupid.
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