Does the hunter go around the squirrel? Vote and then move on already. - Page 6

jimhelm · 01-06-2012, 04:39 PM

classicman · 01-06-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm

he said no.

so, i gave up and called him a faggot.

FTW!

Pete Zicato · 01-06-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

No. Refer to the mental nuts thread for foot's geometrical explanation as to why the hunter does not go around the squirrel.

It's geometry. Not fairies and semantics. Geometry. And it has nothing to do with the squirrel's ass.

I've got to disagree. It really does depend on what you mean by go around. The hunter makes a circle. The squirrel never leaves the circle. Whether they're facing each other is irrelevant. The fact that the squirrel is on the tree is irrelevant.

Forget the tree for the moment. Assume that the squirrel is sitting at the center of the circle. He rotates as the hunter makes his circle, so he's always facing the hunter. Did the hunter go around the squirrel in this case?

BigV · 01-06-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

I've got to disagree. It really does depend on what you mean by go around. The hunter makes a circle. The squirrel never leaves the circle. Whether they're facing each other is irrelevant. The fact that the squirrel is on the tree is irrelevant.

Forget the tree for the moment. Assume that the squirrel is sitting at the center of the circle. He rotates as the hunter makes his circle, so he's always facing the hunter. Did the hunter go around the squirrel in this case?

I tried this already, I hope your luck is better than mine.

ZenGum · 01-06-2012, 05:44 PM

Scenario 1: Glue squirrel to ground. Hunter walks in circle around squirrel.
Hunter has gone around squirrel. Lesson: going around the squirrel is achieved by circumnavigating it.

Scenario 2: Glue squirrel to record player turn-table. Hunter stands still, squirrel rotates, hunter sees every side of squirrel.
Hunter has not gone around squirrel. Lesson: whether the hunter sees every side of the squirrel or not is not relevant to whether the hunter has gone around the squirrel.

Scenario 3: Glue squirrel to record player on super slow speed. Hunter walks a circle around the squirrel/player combo, as the squirrel rotates at the same rate.
Apply lessons from scenarios 1 and 2, hunter has circumnavigated the squirrel, seeing all sides is irrelevant, hunter has gone around the squirrel.

Scenario 4: the nut. Replace the turn-table with the tree. Conclusion the same as for scenario 3.

Scenario 5. The squirrel puts the lotion on its skin. The hunter gives it a beating with the hose anyway, then shoves it up his ass. Now the hunter has really gone AROUND the squirrel!

sullage · 01-06-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

It really does depend on what you mean by go around. The hunter makes a circle. The squirrel never leaves the circle. Whether they're facing each other is irrelevant. The fact that the squirrel is on the tree is irrelevant.

I agree.

footfootfoot · 01-06-2012, 08:19 PM

This might explain why Waltham is no longer in business. (apart from military clocks)

infinite monkey · 01-06-2012, 10:01 PM

If a clock's second hand (a floor planted clock!) is pointing opposite you, and you run around the clock in intervals of 60 seconds per minute (meaning you come back to your starting point at the same time the second hand arrives at its starting point, 180 degrees away), does the second hand ever point at you?

classicman · 01-06-2012, 10:03 PM

dunno, but you go around it!

Lamplighter · 01-06-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

If a clock's second hand (a floor planted clock!) is pointing opposite you, and you run around the clock in intervals of 60 seconds per minute (meaning you come back to your starting point at the same time the second hand arrives at its starting point, 180 degrees away), does the second hand ever point at you?

Which way are you running... clockwise or counter-clockwise ?
Which way is the second hand turning... clockwise or counter-clockwise ?
Doesn't matter, neither can go half-way without first going... Oh, never mind.

Train A leaves the station at 8:00 am going south at 40 mph
Train B leaves the station at 8:00 am going north at 60 mph
Stations are 360 miles apart.
Are trains A and B ever at the same place at the same time ?
Why or why not ?

classicman · 01-06-2012, 10:54 PM

different stations.

ZenGum · 01-07-2012, 12:05 AM

Different tracks, too, I hope. Otherwise they will be in very nearly exactly the same place, which would be bad.

Trilby · 01-07-2012, 05:12 AM

I don't think you should go around shooting squirrels.

infinite monkey · 01-07-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Which way are you running... clockwise or counter-clockwise ?
Which way is the second hand turning... clockwise or counter-clockwise ?
Doesn't matter, neither can go half-way without first going... Oh, never mind.

Train A leaves the station at 8:00 am going south at 40 mph
Train B leaves the station at 8:00 am going north at 60 mph
Stations are 360 miles apart.
Are trains A and B ever at the same place at the same time ?
Why or why not ?

Both going clockwise. The second hand will always be pointing the opposite direction, but I'm sure there is some genius who thinks that since the second hand is pointing somewhere you were, or will be, it does point at you.

It is the new math.

jimhelm · 01-07-2012, 10:26 AM

what if the squirrel were on the same side of the tree as the hunter with his back to the hunter..... and as the hunter circles, the squirrel maintains his relative position... just the opposite of the mental nut?

if he ONLY sees the back of the squirrel, has he gone around?

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01-06-2012, 04:39 PM	#76
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	__________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

01-06-2012, 05:44 PM	#80
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Scenario 1: Glue squirrel to ground. Hunter walks in circle around squirrel. Hunter has gone around squirrel. Lesson: going around the squirrel is achieved by circumnavigating it. Scenario 2: Glue squirrel to record player turn-table. Hunter stands still, squirrel rotates, hunter sees every side of squirrel. Hunter has not gone around squirrel. Lesson: whether the hunter sees every side of the squirrel or not is not relevant to whether the hunter has gone around the squirrel. Scenario 3: Glue squirrel to record player on super slow speed. Hunter walks a circle around the squirrel/player combo, as the squirrel rotates at the same rate. Apply lessons from scenarios 1 and 2, hunter has circumnavigated the squirrel, seeing all sides is irrelevant, hunter has gone around the squirrel. Scenario 4: the nut. Replace the turn-table with the tree. Conclusion the same as for scenario 3. Scenario 5. The squirrel puts the lotion on its skin. The hunter gives it a beating with the hose anyway, then shoves it up his ass. Now the hunter has really gone AROUND the squirrel! __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

01-06-2012, 08:19 PM	#82
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	This might explain why Waltham is no longer in business. (apart from military clocks) __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

01-06-2012, 10:03 PM	#84
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	dunno, but you go around it! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-06-2012, 10:01 PM	#83
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	If a clock's second hand (a floor planted clock!) is pointing opposite you, and you run around the clock in intervals of 60 seconds per minute (meaning you come back to your starting point at the same time the second hand arrives at its starting point, 180 degrees away), does the second hand ever point at you?

01-06-2012, 10:54 PM	#86
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	different stations. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-07-2012, 12:05 AM	#87
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Different tracks, too, I hope. Otherwise they will be in very nearly exactly the same place, which would be bad. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

01-07-2012, 05:12 AM	#88
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I don't think you should go around shooting squirrels. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-07-2012, 10:26 AM	#90
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	what if the squirrel were on the same side of the tree as the hunter with his back to the hunter..... and as the hunter circles, the squirrel maintains his relative position... just the opposite of the mental nut? if he ONLY sees the back of the squirrel, has he gone around? __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

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