May 7, 2009: Two Faced -first American face transplant

monster · 05-07-2009, 09:12 PM

Connie Culp was shot in the face by her husband five years ago. She lost her nose and needed a trach tube to eat and breathe. Now she has a nose again, thanks to a donor. I suspect 10/20 years ago I might have though research into face transplants was cosmetic/frivolous. This definitely proves otherwise. It's a very beautiful thing, if not in the traditional sense. pics are before/after and way back when....

(BBC story)

toranokaze · 05-07-2009, 09:30 PM

She is a reverse Jackson, she used plastic surgery to get a nose

ZenGum · 05-07-2009, 10:19 PM

Who did you think the donor was???

SPUCK · 05-08-2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

Who did you think the donor was???

That lady's head that Arnold used to sneak into Mars.. (I have Total Recall of it)

DanaC · 05-08-2009, 04:41 AM

The initial transplant involves adding much more skin than is actually needed (in case of tissue rejection I think it said) at a later stage, they will cut away excess and round off her face. That's not the shape it will stay.

Look at her picture before she was shot. She was such a bonny lass. Apparently her husband also shot himself and survived. He's serving 7 years.

Medic63 · 05-08-2009, 05:21 AM

He only got 7 years? That, in itself, is a crime.

DanaC · 05-08-2009, 06:25 AM

My gut reaction was exactly the same as yours medic. But I don't know the circumstances around it. Maybe there was a case for diminished responsibility? If not, then really, it's a very low sentence.

capnhowdy · 05-08-2009, 07:17 AM

Basically the same time he'd serve had he killed her.

glatt · 05-08-2009, 07:23 AM

I read elsewhere that she forgave him and testified on his behalf to reduce the sentence.

Shawnee123 · 05-08-2009, 07:40 AM

I can forgive a whole hell of a lot, and have. I don't know that I could forgive someone who did that to me. What a nightmare, can you imagine? I can't. Every day you look in the mirror and it's YOU looking back...until it's not.

I saw her on a news conference, briefly. She has more inner strength than I could dream of.

DanaC · 05-08-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

Basically the same time he'd serve had he killed her.

Oh. Oh, well in that case, that seems a fair sentence.

Sundae · 05-08-2009, 08:03 AM

Men tend to get off more lightly than women in cases of spousal abuse/ violence.
Judges still operate under the perception that women aren't natuarally inclined to violence, therefore a crime perpetrated by a woman against a man is more heinous.

Not relevant in this case of course. It just bears repeating every now and then.

classicman · 05-08-2009, 09:33 AM

I disagree - repeating that is not helping, do you have any statistics on that? Not being argumentative, but I think that almost the opposite is the more common belief.

nikimac · 05-08-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SPUCK

That lady's head that Arnold used to sneak into Mars.. (I have Total Recall of it)

I knew I recognized that triangle face from somewhere!

DanaC · 05-08-2009, 09:54 AM

That might be the opposite of commonly held beliefs where you are Classic, but not here in the UK.

There is also another factor involved to do with preconceived murder, versus the so-called 'crime of passion'. Because women who kill abusive partners usually don't do so in an act of immediate self-defence, but rather after years of abuse, and when the partner is at his most vulnerable (and therefore the only time she will feel able to attack), they have usually faced a full murder charge. Because when men kill their wives they can usually point to an instance of rage, they have historically got away with lighter sentences. I will look for the source but there was a case, not so long ago (maybe a decade) of a judge considering it an acceptable mitigation that a man had snapped because his wife was 'nagging' him.

Our laws only recognised 'rape' as being legally possible within marriage in the mid-late '90s.

There's a similar discrepancy as well, in sentencing for child murder. Women who murder children (I don't necessarily mean their own children) will usually be seen as much greater monsters than men who do the same. Again I'll have to go digging for suorces...though actually, no i won;t not yet. I will go write my essay on factory reforms :P

05-07-2009, 09:12 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	May 7, 2009: Two Faced -first American face transplant Connie Culp was shot in the face by her husband five years ago. She lost her nose and needed a trach tube to eat and breathe. Now she has a nose again, thanks to a donor. I suspect 10/20 years ago I might have though research into face transplants was cosmetic/frivolous. This definitely proves otherwise. It's a very beautiful thing, if not in the traditional sense. pics are before/after and way back when.... (BBC story) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

05-07-2009, 09:30 PM	#2
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	She is a reverse Jackson, she used plastic surgery to get a nose __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

05-07-2009, 10:19 PM	#3
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Who did you think the donor was??? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

05-08-2009, 07:17 AM	#8
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Basically the same time he'd serve had he killed her. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

05-08-2009, 07:40 AM	#10
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I can forgive a whole hell of a lot, and have. I don't know that I could forgive someone who did that to me. What a nightmare, can you imagine? I can't. Every day you look in the mirror and it's YOU looking back...until it's not. I saw her on a news conference, briefly. She has more inner strength than I could dream of. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

05-08-2009, 05:21 AM	#6
Medic63 Disorderly Disciplinarian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Butler, Pennsylvania Posts: 21	He only got 7 years? That, in itself, is a crime.

05-08-2009, 07:23 AM	#9
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I read elsewhere that she forgave him and testified on his behalf to reduce the sentence.

05-08-2009, 08:03 AM	#12
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Men tend to get off more lightly than women in cases of spousal abuse/ violence. Judges still operate under the perception that women aren't natuarally inclined to violence, therefore a crime perpetrated by a woman against a man is more heinous. Not relevant in this case of course. It just bears repeating every now and then. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

05-08-2009, 09:33 AM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I disagree - repeating that is not helping, do you have any statistics on that? Not being argumentative, but I think that almost the opposite is the more common belief. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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