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Old 03-16-2013, 10:52 AM   #61
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Hypocrisy thy name is Steve Katz.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:02 AM   #62
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Katz, in his position on committees for Alcoholism and Drug Abuse, has a duty to his constituents to personally investigate the problem.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:13 PM   #63
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@Griff: It's interesting to me is that such an event is already labelled...

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Last year, he voted against legalizing medical marijuana,
although maybe this will be his Portman moment.
The assemblyman sits on Assembly committees for
Alcoholism and Drug Abuse, as well as Higher Education.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:11 PM   #64
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Yeah, that's interesting isn't it.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:26 PM   #65
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"Higher education" ... giggles...

It's so often the way, isn't it? The loudest voices against something usually turn out to be up to their eyeballs in it.

In the same vein, I've seen some recent internet rumours that Phelps of the WBC is gay or had gay experiences in the past. No kiddin?
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:24 AM   #66
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The trains been running away for a loooong time

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Declassified tapes of President Lyndon Johnson's telephone calls provide a fresh insight into his world. Among the revelations - he planned a dramatic entry into the 1968 Democratic Convention to re-join the presidential race. And he caught Richard Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks... but said nothing.
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By the time of the election in November 1968, LBJ had evidence Nixon had sabotaged the Vietnam war peace talks - or, as he put it, that Nixon was guilty of treason and had "blood on his hands".
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When he became convinced it was being orchestrated by the Republican candidate, the president called Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader in the Senate to get a message to Nixon.
The president knew what was going on, Nixon should back off and the subterfuge amounted to treason.
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Johnson felt it was the ultimate expression of political hypocrisy but in calls recorded with Clifford they express the fear that going public would require revealing the FBI were bugging the ambassador's phone and the National Security Agency (NSA) was intercepting his communications with Saigon.

So they decided to say nothing.

The president did let Humphrey know and gave him enough information to sink his opponent. But by then, a few days from the election, Humphrey had been told he had closed the gap with Nixon and would win the presidency. So Humphrey decided it would be too disruptive to the country to accuse the Republicans of treason, if the Democrats were going to win anyway.
So for the sake of politics, Nixon spent 22,000 American lives, and god knows how many Vietnamese, in the next 5 years of war.

Pissing on Nixon's grave is high on my bucket list.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:57 AM   #67
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"I'm not gay. So I'm not going to marry one"
You'd think that would be a reason why straight people wouldn't have any reason to oppose gay marriage, but instead it was the reason Saxby Chambliss gave for why he wants it to be illegal.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:36 PM   #68
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I say let 'em get married but they're not allowed to throw rice. That preserves the sanctity of traditional marriage.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:32 PM   #69
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This is the nature of today's elected Republicans .

US News & World Report
By Erin McClam, Staff Writer, NBC News
4/3/13
First Amendment doesn't apply here: N.C. lawmakers push bill for state religion
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Republican lawmakers in North Carolina have introduced a bill declaring
that the state has the power to establish an official religion
— a direct challenge to the First Amendment.
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The bill[*] was introduced Monday by two Republican representatives
from Rowan County, north of Charlotte, and sponsored by seven other Republicans.
The party controls both chambers of the North Carolina Legislature.
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[*] The article has a link to the Bill
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:46 PM   #70
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Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli has filed a petition with the 4th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Richmond asking the full 15-judge court to reconsider a decision by a three-judge panel last month that overturned the state’s sodomy law.
He wants to charge someone with sodomy for having sex with an underage girl. Presumably he'd have been fine with it if they'd done it missionary-style.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:08 PM   #71
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I fucking hate Cuccinelli. Normally I don't fucking hate the political opposition, but he's such an asshole about it.

This is the guy who subpoenaed emails and other records of scientists at UVA because he wanted to refute their research on climate change.

What business an attorney general has getting involved in scientific research, I still don't understand.

I'm afraid he's going to be our next governor. Nobody votes in the non-presidential elections, so the Republicans have a chance to take control at the state level. Ugh.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:07 PM   #72
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This is the nature of today's elected Republicans .

US News & World Report
By Erin McClam, Staff Writer, NBC News
4/3/13
First Amendment doesn't apply here: N.C. lawmakers push bill for state religion
[*] The article has a link to the Bill
I honestly thought this was an April Fools joke. Well, there are fools involved.....

These are the same people who rail against attempts to implement Sharia law in the US. What do they think they are setting the stage for....?
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:13 PM   #73
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I fucking hate Cuccinelli. Normally I don't fucking hate the political opposition, but he's such an asshole about it.

This is the guy who subpoenaed emails and other records of scientists at UVA because he wanted to refute their research on climate change.

What business an attorney general has getting involved in scientific research, I still don't understand.

I'm afraid he's going to be our next governor. Nobody votes in the non-presidential elections, so the Republicans have a chance to take control at the state level. Ugh.
I got a letter from the Democratic Governors Association warning about the Tea Party push for control of governorships and state houses, with a particular worry about Cuccinelli this year. They said the polls are dead even at the moment, in VA.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:04 PM   #74
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I fucking hate Cuccinelli. Normally I don't fucking hate the political opposition, but he's such an asshole about it.
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I'm afraid he's going to be our next governor. Nobody votes in the non-presidential elections, so the Republicans have a chance to take control at the state level. Ugh.
Where, Oh where, is Larry Flint and his $1million rewards when you need him ?
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:15 PM   #75
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Lying sack of shit department.

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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who has been raising fears that expanding background checks would bring about a national gun registry, conceded Wednesday that the legislation doesn’t actually do that. But he warned that the bill would encourage future efforts to allow a registry.

Federal law prohibits the creation of a national gun registry. And the Manchin-Toomey background check legislation makes it a felony, punishable by a fine and 15 years in prison. TPM asked Cruz on Wednesday morning how the bill would lead to a registry.

“I don’t disagree that on its face, the currently pending legislation does not purport to create a national gun registry,” Cruz said. But he argued that the bill wouldn’t achieve the desired results without a registry and motivate gun control supporters to push for the creation of one.
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