UK's most recent serial killer

Phil · 12-17-2006, 10:49 AM

i say most recent because this isnt the first and wont be the last psycho to prey on vulnerable people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6171319.stm

xoxoxoBruce · 12-17-2006, 11:25 AM

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vulnerable people

Hmmm...vulnerable?

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vul·ner·a·ble
Pronunciation: 'v&l-n(&-)r&-b&l, 'v&l-n&r-b&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin vulnerabilis, from Latin vulnerare to wound, from vulner-, Vilnius wound; probably akin to Latin Ellerey to pluck, Greek Ole wound
1 : capable of being physically or emotionally wounded
2 : open to attack or damage : ASSAILABLE <vulnerable to criticism>
3 : liable to increased penalties but entitled to increased bonuses after winning a game in contract bridge

I think it's safe to assume they weren't playing bridge.

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vulnerable - conquerable - unprotected - dangerous - unsafe - insecure - susceptible - capable of being wounded or hurt - tender - young - immature

How about unarmed.

Happy Monkey · 12-17-2006, 01:51 PM

I think definitions one and two work. Unarmed doesn't. A serial killer can kill armed people.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-17-2006, 02:48 PM

That's true, but what chance do you have if you can't defend your self?
I'd take maybe dead over dead, but hey, that's just one of my quirks.
The choice is yours.

Hippikos · 12-17-2006, 03:40 PM

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Yesterday Suffolk police released poignant CCTV images of what is thought to be one of the last sightings of one victim, Anneli Alderton, on a train between Harwich and Colchester on 3 December. Detectives are appealing for information about where Alderton - who was about three months pregnant when she died - went next, including where she left the train.

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Clodfobble · 12-17-2006, 03:46 PM

Is prostitution legal in the UK? Just curious, the articles didn't say one way or the other.

Hippikos · 12-17-2006, 04:13 PM

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Aliantha · 12-17-2006, 04:38 PM

We've been watching this on the news here. I hope they catch the bastard!

DanaC · 12-17-2006, 04:59 PM

No it is illegal. That is the problem. There was some talk of creating areas where they could work indoors and not have to put themselves at risk, but our cowardly government didn't want the flack so close to elections.

JayMcGee · 12-17-2006, 06:49 PM

sorry, Dana, but prostitution per se is legal. Kerb-crawling and soliciting ARE illegal, but paying for sex, and offering sex for money, are legal.

However, that misses the point.

Five young women have been murdered. Their profession is irrelevant to any sane individual.

Clodfobble · 12-17-2006, 07:53 PM

Of course it doesn't make their deaths any more tragic, but it clearly is relevant to how this sicko is choosing his targets and is likely instrumental in how he gets them alone. But I only asked because the articles mentioned that one of the later-murdered women had been interviewed earlier saying that she wasn't going to stop advertising, so to speak, just because the first few murders had occurred, and I had found that a curious statement to publicly make if prostitution were illegal.

JayMcGee · 12-17-2006, 08:06 PM

Ah, I see where you're coming from, clodfobble (btw,just when are we going to get that ass picture?).....

Prostitution is not illegal in the UK. Thus, a woman can clearly claim to be a prostitute and demand that the police forces protect her.

However, you are probally right in that the perpetuor/s is/are some kind of morally deranged 'vigilante' person/group.

Beestie · 12-17-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I think definitions one and two work. Unarmed doesn't. A serial killer can kill armed people.

What kills me (no pun intended) is that you are forcing me (legistlatively) to become more vulnerable to make yourself feel better when my being armed is actually a deterrent to either of us being attacked since the attacker has no way of knowing which one of us will blow his head clean off and which one will basically assume the fetal position.

I mean if you were an attacker, hypothetically speaking of course, which city would you set up shop in: a city where only criminals have guns or a city where a lot of people in your "target market" can kill you. Exactly. Hence the crime rate in DC.

JayMcGee · 12-17-2006, 08:35 PM

ok.

some ground rules.

the UK is not, by & large, an armed society. Nor, in general, do we wish to be.

and Suffolk is not DC.

Take your 'guns are glorious' thoughts elsewere.... this is not the right thread for that discusion.

Beestie · 12-17-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

Ah, I see where you're coming from, clodfobble (btw,just when are we going to get that ass picture?).....

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

ok. some ground rules. Take your 'guns are glorious' thoughts elsewere.... this is not the right thread for that discusion.

If staying on point is your point then I recommend leaving CF's ass out of it.

12-17-2006, 10:49 AM	#1
Phil Hoodoo Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 304	UK's most recent serial killer i say most recent because this isnt the first and wont be the last psycho to prey on vulnerable people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6171319.stm

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Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I think definitions one and two work. Unarmed doesn't. A serial killer can kill armed people. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-17-2006, 02:48 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's true, but what chance do you have if you can't defend your self? I'd take maybe dead over dead, but hey, that's just one of my quirks. The choice is yours. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-17-2006, 04:38 PM	#8
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	We've been watching this on the news here. I hope they catch the bastard! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-17-2006, 06:49 PM	#10
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	sorry, Dana, but prostitution per se is legal. Kerb-crawling and soliciting ARE illegal, but paying for sex, and offering sex for money, are legal. However, that misses the point. Five young women have been murdered. Their profession is irrelevant to any sane individual. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

12-17-2006, 03:46 PM	#6
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Is prostitution legal in the UK? Just curious, the articles didn't say one way or the other.

12-17-2006, 04:59 PM	#9
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	No it is illegal. That is the problem. There was some talk of creating areas where they could work indoors and not have to put themselves at risk, but our cowardly government didn't want the flack so close to elections.

12-17-2006, 07:53 PM	#11
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Of course it doesn't make their deaths any more tragic, but it clearly is relevant to how this sicko is choosing his targets and is likely instrumental in how he gets them alone. But I only asked because the articles mentioned that one of the later-murdered women had been interviewed earlier saying that she wasn't going to stop advertising, so to speak, just because the first few murders had occurred, and I had found that a curious statement to publicly make if prostitution were illegal.

12-17-2006, 08:06 PM	#12
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	Ah, I see where you're coming from, clodfobble (btw,just when are we going to get that ass picture?)..... Prostitution is not illegal in the UK. Thus, a woman can clearly claim to be a prostitute and demand that the police forces protect her. However, you are probally right in that the perpetuor/s is/are some kind of morally deranged 'vigilante' person/group. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

12-17-2006, 08:35 PM	#14
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	ok. some ground rules. the UK is not, by & large, an armed society. Nor, in general, do we wish to be. and Suffolk is not DC. Take your 'guns are glorious' thoughts elsewere.... this is not the right thread for that discusion. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

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