School, Again - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 06-20-2009, 05:48 PM

So you're working your way into the club. Does that mean teaching others so they can get into the club too?

DanaC · 06-20-2009, 05:52 PM

Well. I don't really see it in terms of a 'club' I see it more in terms of serving an apprenticeship in order to earn my entrance to a 'guild' or wider community of peers. If someone spends time doing an engineering degree and then goes and gets a job as an engineer he didnt 'join a club'.

Trilby · 06-20-2009, 05:56 PM

@ SD -

You so funny. I give discount, ok Joe?

Dana, I actually mean several men I've been close to (no, not like that).
I don't disregard the value of a degree, hell, I'm still at it even after last year's nightmare world of pain, but...but...since that time, my life lense seems to have re-focused, all on it's own. Without intention, I find myself less able to re-create the rabid enthusiasm I had for my subject; making highest honors means nothing to me now while before it was what I measured my self worth against; pleasing these assholes is so not important; I don't give a shit if they don't like me OR my papers; academia is wonderful - for those who can withstand the suffering. Having suffered, I no longer want to. Esp. for something so ethereal as "academia" - they can be such frauds, such snobs.

I'm jaded, yeah. Bitter? No. I still believe in it - just not so completely. I wouldn't give myself over to it. Not now. I've no time for these petty games. I'd rather be a waitress.

eta: I DO NOT want to be standing where "they" stand. I've seen what it's cost them, what it does to them. Like insulting a painter: not worth it.*

*Stephen Fry, The Hippopotomus. Hilarious.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-20-2009, 05:59 PM

No he didn't, he went out in the world to hopefully to some good for mankind, by applying what he learned to earn a living.
The other option for him is to teach what he has learned to others so they can avail themselves of the first option.
Either way, they are paying back.
Being a professional student is not.

DanaC · 06-21-2009, 04:20 AM

Taking time to complete a degree isnt the same thng as being a professional student.

Now....I am a professional student lol. Keeping going through the whole shebang. MA next, then PhD.

ZenGum · 06-21-2009, 06:01 AM

It's much more fun being an unprofessional student.

smoothmoniker · 06-22-2009, 12:03 AM

I'm hoping I have enough time left in the day to still be a professional, while being a student.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-22-2009, 12:30 AM

Sure, you already know the material, you're just going through the motions to satisfy the club of your worthiness.

06-20-2009, 05:48 PM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	So you're working your way into the club. Does that mean teaching others so they can get into the club too? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-20-2009, 05:56 PM	#18
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	@ SD - You so funny. I give discount, ok Joe? Dana, I actually mean several men I've been close to (no, not like that). I don't disregard the value of a degree, hell, I'm still at it even after last year's nightmare world of pain, but...but...since that time, my life lense seems to have re-focused, all on it's own. Without intention, I find myself less able to re-create the rabid enthusiasm I had for my subject; making highest honors means nothing to me now while before it was what I measured my self worth against; pleasing these assholes is so not important; I don't give a shit if they don't like me OR my papers; academia is wonderful - for those who can withstand the suffering. Having suffered, I no longer want to. Esp. for something so ethereal as "academia" - they can be such frauds, such snobs. I'm jaded, yeah. Bitter? No. I still believe in it - just not so completely. I wouldn't give myself over to it. Not now. I've no time for these petty games. I'd rather be a waitress. eta: I DO NOT want to be standing where "they" stand. I've seen what it's cost them, what it does to them. Like insulting a painter: not worth it.* *Stephen Fry, The Hippopotomus. Hilarious. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

06-20-2009, 05:59 PM	#19
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No he didn't, he went out in the world to hopefully to some good for mankind, by applying what he learned to earn a living. The other option for him is to teach what he has learned to others so they can avail themselves of the first option. Either way, they are paying back. Being a professional student is not. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-21-2009, 06:01 AM	#21
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	It's much more fun being an unprofessional student. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-22-2009, 12:03 AM	#22
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	I'm hoping I have enough time left in the day to still be a professional, while being a student. __________________ to live and die in LA

06-22-2009, 12:30 AM	#23
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sure, you already know the material, you're just going through the motions to satisfy the club of your worthiness. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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