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Old 09-22-2010, 09:47 AM   #46
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What's the point of calling yourself a conservative if you don't adhere to conservative values?

If it doesn't walk like a duck and doesn't quack like a duck, then it's not a duck.

I'm going to start calling myself conservative. I'm against the death penalty, I'm for rights for women, rights for minorities, I think our health care system needs reformed. I'm pro-choice. I'm agnostic. I'm a hippy.

BUT I'm a conservative, dammit.

Maybe you need another word, or fall off the fence.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:49 AM   #47
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Not all conservatives - not at all.

You consistently confuse "republican" with "conservative"
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:50 AM   #48
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:24 AM   #49
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conservative values?
Please define some of them for me.
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:26 AM   #50
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*shrugs*

You're Mr Conservative, you tell me.

Or are you a moderate today? I can't remember the schedule.

Regardless, I hear a lot from republicans about conservative values and my very favorite "it doesn't even freaking mean anything" word regurgitation about things being 'unamerican.' There was a lot of 'unamerican' being thrown around about the mosque debate.

WTF is 'unamerican'? I need a definition for that one! Disamerican? Nonamerican? Inamerican?

I need the official unabridged Rush dictionary. The entry for 'unamerican' probably follows 'ampersand.'

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Old 09-22-2010, 12:15 PM   #51
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I've always wondered, what are conservatives conserving?
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:22 PM   #52
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What's the point of calling yourself a conservative if you don't adhere to conservative values?
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Please define some of them for me.
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*shrugs*
Good discourse.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:23 PM   #53
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I've always wondered, what are conservatives conserving?
Brain power.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:29 PM   #54
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Good discourse.
[groucho]you should see my intercourse[/groucho]

Who me? No, it was him? I never said that. Who said that.

Thanks, though. When you add in the rest of the post the discourse says "you tell me: it's your party who bitches about people not adhering to conservative american values." You. Tell. Me. You say you're a conservative (like I said, I'm confused as to what you're leaning to on any particular day) yet you tell spexx that all conservatives are not all conservative. What in the heck do you mean?

You're either conservative or not. Maybe you're a liberalomodoconservatavo, but if you are just say so. Don't hide behind your conservative curtain then say you're not conservative.

I listed those things that make me a conservative (oh, in case you didn't get the joke, I really listed the things I think make me a liberal.) So let's hear what YOU believe in that you think makes you conservative. There are no wrong or right answers. What do YOU think makes YOU conservative?

The fence, doesn't it chafe?
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:37 PM   #55
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I think the problem is that most of us don't really fit in one category.

I don't think there is a fence.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:37 PM   #56
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I don't belong to either party, I'm an independent.
Hence all your immature arrogant comments, as usual, don't apply.

You made the accusation, now back it up.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:42 PM   #57
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I think the problem is that most of us don't really fit in one category.

I don't think there is a fence.
Oh I disagree - I'm on the fence on many issues, if not most.

There are too many sheep who attach a label to themselves and say this is what I believe because I am a (insert choice here)
They confuse terminology like conservative and republican or liberal and democrat. All they can do is regurgitate that which they are told.
Sad really, because many of them, from both parties, are actually rather intelligent people with an apparent blind spot.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:47 PM   #58
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So I'm asking you, the expert, what about you makes you conservative? You can't answer the question. You're looking for the right thing to say, but you don't know. My comment came from your party, the king of regurgitation: conservative american values. I don't know what they are, but I bet I don't have them. So what are they? You purport to know of them. You use conservatism when it's convenient, when it backs up whatever you have a problem with at the time, then you turn your back on it when you're faced with defining the truth about conservatism, and the truth about who you are. Be honest. Be who you are. Give me an honest statement about what makes you conservative, or whatever you're backing today. Believe me, I'm not the biggest sheep around here, not by a long shot.

YOU HAVE A UNIQUE CHANCE TO, ONCE AND FOR ALL, TELL US WHAT IT IS YOU REALLY STAND FOR. If I'm wrong, you're not conservative, tell me now and let's end it, once and for all.

btw "sheep" and "immature, arrogant comments" sounds like insult to me.

You're not insulting me, are you? I'll cry and get you banned.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:51 PM   #59
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I don't know what they are
Gee was it really so hard to admit that?

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I'm not an expert, never claimed to be.
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"Immature, arrogant comments" sounds like insult to me.
Just returning the favor.
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You're not insulting me, are you? I'll cry and get you banned.
Go for it.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:53 PM   #60
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Typical.

Business as usual for the c-man.
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