Coffee: Good or Evil? - Page 5

DanaC · 07-27-2004, 03:18 PM

Good man. I'd like to say i always buy fair trade but I dont. There are occassions when I just buy the supermarkets own brand

wolf · 07-28-2004, 02:16 AM

You'd rather the kids not have jobs to support their families?

jaguar · 07-28-2004, 02:26 AM

Do you really want to get into the economics of child workers?

wolf · 07-28-2004, 02:45 AM

No, not really, but you're more than welcome to start a thread outside of the coffee thread if you really feel the need.

Cyber Wolf · 07-28-2004, 06:58 AM

Starbucks may have the coffee world wrapped up but they've got some work to do on their hot chocolate.

Kitsune · 07-28-2004, 07:53 AM

Starbucks may have the coffee world wrapped up but they've got some work to do on their hot chocolate.

Ever try their pastries? Especially that brown muffin with the big, creamy crater in the top? I've been trying for years to figure out what the hell that thing is supposed to be. I guess they have some more years to work on the food portion of their establishments, too.

...and I say this as I sip a $3 mocha with the big green logo on the side in the cardboard insulator. These cups could also use some work, too, but no one believes me. "Exploding coffee", I call it, when steam builds in the dome, a-la Mount St. Helens, and when you tip the coffee to take a drink the liquid covers the only exhaust hole big enough for gas escape (there is a little hole in the back specifically designed for vacuum and pressure release, but its not big enough!) The result is a small explosion of coffee that only seems to happen when you are on your way to work and have on nice clothing. Khaki pants and nice blue shirt are suddenly stained forever. I've experienced this, oh, four or five times, and trying to explain it to the staff is impossible.

Whats that smell? Impending lawsuit. Mmm.

Have you been traumatized by exploding coffee? Has your love life suffered? Did you lose your job as a consequence of stained clothing? I'm John Bellvue, attorney at law...

Clodfobble · 07-28-2004, 09:21 AM

My friend's dad once left his coffee cup on the roof of the car when he drove off.

Then he opened the sunroof.

Catwoman · 07-28-2004, 09:25 AM

I buy Free Trade but until they tighten up the label licensing pretty much anyone can label their coffee (or other product) fair trade as long as they don't use the 'official' logo. Nestle are going through an appeal at the moment.

DanaC · 07-28-2004, 09:33 AM

I didnt know that CW, that's interesting. I know that the Co-op only use fair trade on their own brand coffees and chocolate

Catwoman · 07-28-2004, 09:47 AM

Yes, as far as I know that's the 'real' fair trade. Always a good purchase anyway as it shows the consumer is becoming more ethically aware which forces people in my industry to reconsider the ethicality of the products they are selling - that glimmer of profitability from a new market gives any marketer wet dreams - I think we'll see a surprising increase in the number of ethically-aware products over the next few years.

jaguar · 07-28-2004, 09:48 AM

http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/
Is the site to check for the UK, similar sites exist for most countries. I'm yet to see one without the logo, if I do i'll go back and add some stickers to point this out.

Carbonated_Brains · 07-28-2004, 12:10 PM

(coffee wont stain unless it has milk or cream in it. Black coffee-stains wash right out.)

cowhead · 08-09-2004, 12:30 PM

ahh.. coffee...

love the stuff! although I have the kinda bass-ackwards metabolism that if I drink 1-3 cups it wakes me up, more than that the hyperactivity (aka. adhd.. whatever!) reverses the effect and it starts making me tired. used to piss off my roomates, I'd wake up @ 10:00 watch 'The Price is Right' and 'Days of our lives' (yeah I know.. but it's sooooo addictive!) drink a 1/2 pot of coffee and then take a nap before work..

although a body ought to drink quite a bit of water if you also drink alot of coffee, it can lead to dehydration and kidney stones (yuck) and also on a side note (especially to those who have asthma or allergies) it's a great bronchio-dialator (sp?) if you start getting all wheezy

and fair trade coffee is the only way to go (a local fellow roasts his own coffees and buys fair trade beans.. so.. I buy from him, he's also a.) really good at it and b.) a really nice guy

Trilby · 08-09-2004, 01:20 PM

Didn't someone say Starbuck's tastes like ass? I just had a Starbuck's latte--it was OK but not worth $3.55 (was a venti--I thought that meant 'small'--am idiot.)

lulu · 08-09-2004, 06:55 PM

I like coffee. I especially love turkish coffee in the morning. Nice kick to it.

07-28-2004, 02:16 AM	#62
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You'd rather the kids not have jobs to support their families? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-28-2004, 02:26 AM	#63
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Do you really want to get into the economics of child workers? __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-28-2004, 02:45 AM	#64
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	No, not really, but you're more than welcome to start a thread outside of the coffee thread if you really feel the need. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-28-2004, 06:58 AM	#65
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	Starbucks may have the coffee world wrapped up but they've got some work to do on their hot chocolate. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

07-28-2004, 09:25 AM	#68
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	I buy Free Trade but until they tighten up the label licensing pretty much anyone can label their coffee (or other product) fair trade as long as they don't use the 'official' logo. Nestle are going through an appeal at the moment. __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

07-27-2004, 03:18 PM	#61
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Good man. I'd like to say i always buy fair trade but I dont. There are occassions when I just buy the supermarkets own brand

07-28-2004, 07:53 AM	#66
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Starbucks may have the coffee world wrapped up but they've got some work to do on their hot chocolate. Ever try their pastries? Especially that brown muffin with the big, creamy crater in the top? I've been trying for years to figure out what the hell that thing is supposed to be. I guess they have some more years to work on the food portion of their establishments, too. ...and I say this as I sip a $3 mocha with the big green logo on the side in the cardboard insulator. These cups could also use some work, too, but no one believes me. "Exploding coffee", I call it, when steam builds in the dome, a-la Mount St. Helens, and when you tip the coffee to take a drink the liquid covers the only exhaust hole big enough for gas escape (there is a little hole in the back specifically designed for vacuum and pressure release, but its not big enough!) The result is a small explosion of coffee that only seems to happen when you are on your way to work and have on nice clothing. Khaki pants and nice blue shirt are suddenly stained forever. I've experienced this, oh, four or five times, and trying to explain it to the staff is impossible. Whats that smell? Impending lawsuit. Mmm. Have you been traumatized by exploding coffee? Has your love life suffered? Did you lose your job as a consequence of stained clothing? I'm John Bellvue, attorney at law...

07-28-2004, 09:21 AM	#67
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	My friend's dad once left his coffee cup on the roof of the car when he drove off. Then he opened the sunroof.

07-28-2004, 09:33 AM	#69
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I didnt know that CW, that's interesting. I know that the Co-op only use fair trade on their own brand coffees and chocolate

07-28-2004, 09:47 AM	#70
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	Yes, as far as I know that's the 'real' fair trade. Always a good purchase anyway as it shows the consumer is becoming more ethically aware which forces people in my industry to reconsider the ethicality of the products they are selling - that glimmer of profitability from a new market gives any marketer wet dreams - I think we'll see a surprising increase in the number of ethically-aware products over the next few years. __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

07-28-2004, 09:48 AM	#71
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/ Is the site to check for the UK, similar sites exist for most countries. I'm yet to see one without the logo, if I do i'll go back and add some stickers to point this out. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-28-2004, 12:10 PM	#72
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	(coffee wont stain unless it has milk or cream in it. Black coffee-stains wash right out.)

08-09-2004, 12:30 PM	#73
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	ahh.. coffee... love the stuff! although I have the kinda bass-ackwards metabolism that if I drink 1-3 cups it wakes me up, more than that the hyperactivity (aka. adhd.. whatever!) reverses the effect and it starts making me tired. used to piss off my roomates, I'd wake up @ 10:00 watch 'The Price is Right' and 'Days of our lives' (yeah I know.. but it's sooooo addictive!) drink a 1/2 pot of coffee and then take a nap before work.. although a body ought to drink quite a bit of water if you also drink alot of coffee, it can lead to dehydration and kidney stones (yuck) and also on a side note (especially to those who have asthma or allergies) it's a great bronchio-dialator (sp?) if you start getting all wheezy and fair trade coffee is the only way to go (a local fellow roasts his own coffees and buys fair trade beans.. so.. I buy from him, he's also a.) really good at it and b.) a really nice guy __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

08-09-2004, 01:20 PM	#74
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Didn't someone say Starbuck's tastes like ass? I just had a Starbuck's latte--it was OK but not worth $3.55 (was a venti--I thought that meant 'small'--am idiot.)

08-09-2004, 06:55 PM	#75
lulu with karate i'll kick your ass Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 53	I like coffee. I especially love turkish coffee in the morning. Nice kick to it. __________________ Hiya!

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