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BigV · 08-03-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Hell, if someone had handed me a marker and a stack of shells after 911 I'd be writing till my hand cramped

Would you have taken your children and had them autograph them too? I will consider your answer carefully.

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV

Would you have taken your children and had them autograph them too?

It's probably better than fitting them for toy suicide bomber vests.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-03-2006, 11:24 AM

Haven't seen many blonde suicide bombers.

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 12:14 PM

That's the first time I've seen the Reuters tag on that photo. Did they fall for the joke, too?

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Haven't seen many blonde suicide bombers.

How many suicide bombers have you seen? You wouldn't be doing racial profiling now, would you?

Maybe blondes tend to filter themselves out early. ("Is *this* the right button?")

Or, considering how kiddie-porned up the pic is, maybe the child isn't as blonde as the pic is.

Undertoad · 08-03-2006, 12:19 PM

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/m...oto/index.html

xoxoxoBruce · 08-03-2006, 12:27 PM

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How many suicide bombers have you seen? You wouldn't be doing racial profiling now, would you?

No, not profiling. I've seen quite a few pictures of the remains. The heads are usually more intact than the rest of them.

Shawnee123 · 08-03-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/m...oto/index.html

"A party where they dressed the cutest baby as a suicide bomber..."

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?

Same thing that's wrong with this guy, I think.

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Same thing that's wrong with this guy, I think.

Moral equivalance? I think not.

BigV · 08-03-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

It's probably better than fitting them for toy suicide bomber vests.

I have considered your answer carefully, and I disagree. Both are reprehensible. Especially considering that the vest is almost certainly fake, and the artillery shells are almost certainly real. Additionally, I imagine what message is being sent to the children in each situation. For the "baby-bomber" it is no more than another dress-up, and certainly all the meaning is in the mind of the adult(s). For the kids signing the shells, at best they're being lied to, at worst they're being taught to hate. The baby is not being taught to hate, but those laughing at the unfunny joke have plenty of it.

My point is that it is wrong, in the worst possible way, to teach children to hate.

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Moral equivalance? I think not.

Really? They were both simply joking.

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

The baby is not being taught to hate...

The hell sie isn't. Even if the lessons have begun before they can be completely understood, they surely will continue (at brainwashing intensity) throughout that baby's childhood. In fact, it's quite likely that baby will be issued a working suicide vest before the lessons can be completely understood.

Unless the whole area craters in the next 10 years.

The toy vest is reminicent of the cap-and-gown graduations they run for preschoolers these days. The diplomas aren't real working degrees, but they represent aspirations.

Kitsune · 08-03-2006, 03:56 PM

I weep for the victims of baby brainwashing. These kids all died of liver disease by age three.

BigV · 08-03-2006, 05:46 PM

I'll bite, MaggieL.

Tell me what you think the baby's learning from what you can glean from that picture, please.

Now tell me what you think the two young girls in the previous picture are learning, please.

Now compare those two learning experiences. I will concede that a baby that age in proximity of adults stoopid enough to create such a photo will be surrounded by hate and learn accordingly. But I wasn't hypothesing about the future of the subjects of the pictures, I was talking about what's happening during the snapshot.

Feel free to brandish your "moral equivalence" crutch if you're not afraid to have it kicked out from underneath you. I'll repeat: Both are reprehensible. When you say "but not as bad as this..." you sound like a child justifying their part in some petty quarrel. [whine]But he hit me *first*! waah waah waah...[/whine].

They're **both** fucked up. If you can't acknowledge that, you have earned my disdain. If you can't understand that, you have earned my pity.

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xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Haven't seen many blonde suicide bombers. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	I weep for the victims of baby brainwashing. These kids all died of liver disease by age three. Attached Images

08-03-2006, 05:46 PM	#150
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I'll bite, MaggieL. Tell me what you think the baby's learning from what you can glean from that picture, please. Now tell me what you think the two young girls in the previous picture are learning, please. Now compare those two learning experiences. I will concede that a baby that age in proximity of adults stoopid enough to create such a photo will be surrounded by hate and learn accordingly. But I wasn't hypothesing about the future of the subjects of the pictures, I was talking about what's happening during the snapshot. Feel free to brandish your "moral equivalence" crutch if you're not afraid to have it kicked out from underneath you. I'll repeat: Both are reprehensible. When you say "but not as bad as this..." you sound like a child justifying their part in some petty quarrel. [whine]But he hit me first! waah waah waah...[/whine]. They're both fucked up. If you can't acknowledge that, you have earned my disdain. If you can't understand that, you have earned my pity. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-03-2006, 12:14 PM	#139
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	That's the first time I've seen the Reuters tag on that photo. Did they fall for the joke, too?

08-03-2006, 12:19 PM	#141
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/m...oto/index.html

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