FOUR MORE YEARS

[Adak]

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.

BTW German projections for their economy is a very tepid 0.8% growth for 2013 -- but Socialism is what Obama is directing us toward -- whoopee!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...isers-say.html

[Rhianne]

Will it go up again?

[Happy Monkey]

Good day to buy stock.

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by Adak

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.

BTW German projections for their economy is a very tepid 0.5% growth -- but Socialism is what Obama is directing us toward -- whoopee!

I hear they are expecting snow in the northeast. Must be the Obama effect.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by Adak

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.
<snip>

How to win friends and influence people...

Adek's (and his ilk) reveal their true nature in remarks like this.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

How to win friends and influence people...

Adek's (and his ilk) reveal their true nature in remarks like this.

If the friends I win, want to drive me into a car accident, I would be wise to win other friends, safer driving, friends.

Originally Posted by Stormieweather

Obama can work just as well with Congress and House as Romney could have if he'd been elected. It all depends on whether the OTHER participants wish to work towards a solution instead of behave like a spoiled toddlers.

So the Senators and Representatives should all fall in step with Obama, even though he's now brought us up to a stunning 16 Trillion dollars of debt, and lead us into an incredibly slow recovery ?

The idea that they should do what's right for the country, shouldn't be an issue?

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Adak

When you wake up enough to grasp the concept that a naval vessel in the Pacific, is useless for an immediate problem in the Mediterranean, then you'll grasp what I was referring to about Obama cutting down the number of naval ships we have.

--snip

When you confess to your dishonesty of putting words in the President's mouth by saying that he "used that as a defense in the debate", then you'll grasp what *he* was saying about Romney's statement about the number of ships in the navy. Or not.

It was a lie when you said it the first time, it's still a lie now. Changing the subject didn't work before, and won't work now. You've shown your devotion to that position despite how wrong it is. Every time you bring it up, I'll knock it down.

Misquoting, putting words in people's mouths, lying, these are the actions of the ignorant, the malicious, of people who have no interest much less respect for the truth. I think you are a bit of all three. Our dialog will improve dramatically when you clean up your act in this regard.

Originally Posted by Adak

Until then, it will fly right over your head.

Not unlike those planes that land on those ships, eh?

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by Adak

If the friends I win, want to drive me into a car accident, I would be wise to win other friends, safer driving, friends.
~snip~
So the Senators and Representatives should all fall in step with Obama, even though he's now brought us up to a stunning 16 Trillion dollars of debt, and lead us into an incredibly slow recovery ?

The idea that they should do what's right for the country, shouldn't be an issue?

Heck, I wouldn't mind an opponent who just knew where he'd been and which way he was going. You and many others on the far right want to over simplify the problem and avoid admitting to any Republican responsibility for the current fiscal mess. It's so much more satisfying to just turn the president into the boogie man (he IS black, after all).

Say, remember that dufus we had for a president at the time of 9/11? Remember how we had a budget surplus when he came into office? Do you recall how he pushed a bunch of tax cuts through Congress while at the same time embroiling this country in an extremely expensive war without a single qualm about how much the bill would be and how it would be paid when it came due?

Ah, just put it on the credit card. The financial world is partying so hard, they'll probably not even pay any attention to it and when the day of reckoning finally does arrive, the responsible parties will have slithered away under some rock just like the reptiles they really are.

I guess since it was a Republican administration that pulled off this nasty little trick, they were doing "what was right for the country" even if it didn't look that way either then or now.

Jeez, give it a break already.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Adak

snip--

I'm sure you could name, five (just five) specific plans that Obama will be implementing in this next term, surely?

Ok.

OBAMA: I'm asking you to rally not around me, but rally around a set of goals for our country in manufacturing and education and energy, national security, reducing the deficit.

First, export more products and outsource fewer jobs.

Second, control more of our own energy.

Third, give more Americans the chance to get the skills that they need to compete.

Fourth, reduce the deficit without sticking it to the middle class.

Fifth, strong national security, smart foreign policy.

Originally Posted by Adak

Perhaps because Obama NEVER NAMED five specific plans for his second term, throughout his campaign.

You're wrong again. These were presented at the Democratic National Convention. Perhaps you didn't pay attention. They're all over his website too.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Adak

I see today, that the DOW industrial average celebrated Obama's victory, by losing 314 points!

The "Obama Effect" is already in full swing! Pardon me while I dance on my ceiling.

--snip

So, you're saying that Obama's responsible for what happens on the DOW Jones Industrial Average? Ok.

Two months into Barack Obama’s tenure, the index reached its low point, slumping to 6,547 in March 2009.



But then something interesting happened: Just a few weeks after Obama signed his stimulus package, the Dow began to rise. Sure, it was herky-jerky, but under our supposedly socialistic president, we’ve seen the Dow go up around 5,000 points from the beginning of his term.

And another 1,500 points on top of that since the publication of this article.

I got your "Obama effect" hangin' right here, punk.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Heck, I wouldn't mind an opponent who just knew where he'd been and which way he was going. You and many others on the far right want to over simplify the problem and avoid admitting to any Republican responsibility for the current fiscal mess. It's so much more satisfying to just turn the president into the boogie man (he IS black, after all).

I don't blame Obama for the fiscal mess we were in when he was sworn in -- not at all.

What I do blame him for, is his fiscal actions and policies, since he became President.

Say, remember that dufus we had for a president at the time of 9/11? Remember how we had a budget surplus when he came into office? Do you recall how he pushed a bunch of tax cuts through Congress while at the same time embroiling this country in an extremely expensive war without a single qualm about how much the bill would be and how it would be paid when it came due?

I'm well aware of Bush's policies - he was a social conservative, but a fiscal big spender. More importantly, had he recognized the impending crisis earlier, he could have helped us avoid more of it.

I guess since it was a Republican administration that pulled off this nasty little trick, they were doing "what was right for the country" even if it didn't look that way either then or now.

Let's not forget our mistakes, let's learn from them. Bush was a big spender, and it was a mistake. Obama is a bigger spender, and it's a mistake.

Let's stop the big spending, already - there are a number of fiscal calamities that await us, if we don't use common sense, and STOP the massive over-spending!

[Adak]

Originally Posted by BigV

So, you're saying that Obama's responsible for what happens on the DOW Jones Industrial Average? Ok.

And another 1,500 points on top of that since the publication of this article.

I got your "Obama effect" hangin' right here, punk.

I'm saying Obama's re-election was widely seen by investors, as a probable return to poor fiscal and business policies.

We had a business genius running for President, but we elected a guy who never ran a lemonade stand.

Maybe Obama has learned from his earlier mistakes - maybe Congress will force him into better compromises in his second term.

We'll see.

[Trilby]

Aliens did it.

[Adak]

First, export more products and outsource fewer jobs.

Second, control more of our own energy.

Third, give more Americans the chance to get the skills that they need to compete.

Fourth, reduce the deficit without sticking it to the middle class.

Fifth, strong national security, smart foreign policy.

Those aren't policies or plans. Those are just campaign promises.

1) To outsource fewer jobs, you need to change our tax codes. Has Obama said anything about changing our tax codes for corporations?

NO.

2) He vetoed our biggest energy project in the last 5 years, the Keystone Pipeline project.

He's restricted oil and gas drilling on all Federal lands (thankfully he can't stop it on private land, which is booming). He even has cut back on the drilling in the Alaskan oil reserve area.

So this is another campaign promise that's a lie.

3) More skills to compete sounds great - but HOW is he going to do that? More campaign promises - ie. "lies".

4) Without sticking it to the middle class? What a laugh!
You watch your taxes go up, and then you'll know just how big a lie this is. He's massively overspent, do you think he can get the money he needs from just some rich folks?

Another lie.

He may get his money from things like payroll taxes, etc., rather than directly from an increase in the income tax rates, but he WILL have to either increase taxes to the middle class, or run up more of our national debt.

5) Strong national defense and smart foreign policy?

He just abandoned Ambassador Stevens and a few other American agents, to die in Benghazi, despite repeated pleas for help over a six hour period. All while the attack was monitored in real time, by a recon drone.

The terrorists who did it, Obama calls "folks"!

He's a blatant liar, and a coward to the men serving our country, overseas.

Or perhaps you can explain why he abandoned our Ambassador in Benghazi?

Come on! I'm VERY anxious to hear why!

[Adak]

Originally Posted by BigV

When you confess to your dishonesty of putting words in the President's mouth by saying that he "used that as a defense in the debate", then you'll grasp what *he* was saying about Romney's statement about the number of ships in the navy. Or not.

It was a lie when you said it the first time, it's still a lie now. Changing the subject didn't work before, and won't work now. You've shown your devotion to that position despite how wrong it is. Every time you bring it up, I'll knock it down.

I'm not putting words into Obama's mouth. I'm telling you what those words MEAN, in a tactical sense. I'm telling you that a ship in the Pacific, can't help us with an immediate problem in the Mediterranean Sea. It doesn't matter if it's an aircraft carrier or not.

And it MEANS, Obama has no tactical sense, at all. Or it's just another campaigning politician who lies. I wish he wouldn't do that about something as important as our Naval strength, however.

Misquoting, putting words in people's mouths, lying, these are the actions of the ignorant, the malicious, of people who have no interest much less respect for the truth. I think you are a bit of all three. Our dialog will improve dramatically when you clean up your act in this regard.

Sounds like most politicians, actually.