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Old 09-01-2020, 09:42 PM   #121
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What did Obama do that needed surviving after?
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Old 09-01-2020, 09:42 PM   #122
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exactly
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Old 09-01-2020, 09:49 PM   #123
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I'm being coy, I shouldn't do that

shouldn't post at all really never mind
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Old 09-01-2020, 09:51 PM   #124
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I know what Trump has done (at lest some of it) that needs undoing, which will be a long protracted struggle. How long will it take to stop drilling in the Grand Canyon? The goddamn Cuyahoga river caught fire again! That's how bad it's gotten.
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Old 09-01-2020, 10:44 PM   #125
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how will we ever survive like we did five years ago

it's almost like who the potus is doesn't really matter all that much to the bigger picture
That was the lesson I drew from Obama, myself. Obama never once got my vote -- he desperately wanted socialism, the lesser way, lesser than capitalism, and could not get it -- did a lot for gun sales, too, notably rifles of 5.56mm bore and twenty or thirty rounds' magazine capacity. Semiautomatic, too.
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Old 09-02-2020, 11:08 AM   #126
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he desperately wanted socialism,
From a far right extremist who was told communism and socialism is same. Since he was commanded what to think, that must be the truth.

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Old 09-02-2020, 09:36 PM   #127
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From a far right extremist who was told communism and socialism is same. Since he was commanded what to think, that must be the truth.
Even a budget-minded Pasty-Faced Basementdweller (Alba subterranea) like yourself would have a hard time living on any difference -- and you in particular show zero inclination to ever try it. Along with zero inclination to address civil rights and how to get and keep them -- not your strong suit.

I study; you only know how to type, as you were saying for a while.

Reduced liberty is liberty reduced -- were that the case in the late 1970's, you wouldn't be typing on a computer now. Reduce liberty and you reduce innovation. Undertoad could tell you his new car includes no socialist-developed components. Socialist places produce -- Trabants. For innovation, socialism has to parasitize capitalism.
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:36 AM   #128
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Griff says it appears as if we are fucked.
That was only a week ago and it is even worse today.
I wish I could find some useful ideas in this thread besides that one.

Trump and his ilk cravenly trade on the conditions that our White history has brought to people of color in this country.
Today it is fear, tomorrow it will be panic and humans have never experienced panic in a population fully armed with semi-automatic weapons.
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:07 PM   #129
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What did Obama do that needed surviving after?
Only the worst crime of all-- trying to give people healthcare.
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Old 09-03-2020, 04:07 PM   #130
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Trump and his ilk cravenly trade on the conditions that our White history has brought to people of color in this country.
Today it is fear, tomorrow it will be panic and humans have never experienced panic in a population fully armed with semi-automatic weapons.
If you're trying to cheer me up, you're missing the mark.
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Old 09-07-2020, 03:55 PM   #131
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Carrying the conversation from the Rims thread to here, a more obvious place for it.


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Because nobody talks, they either want to attack with all sorts of off the wall generalizations or rediculous personal accusations. On the other side, sick of defending themselves from the ridiculous bullshit charges of being the problem.

Since when does a book on the NYT best seller list represent more than the authors opinion, and maybe half the people who read it.



Don't equate ignorance with evil intent.
Ignorance is not the same as evil intent, agreed. Beau makes an excellent expansion of this point starting at 6:34. Acknowledging these facts is not a personal attack.
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Old 09-07-2020, 06:48 PM   #132
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More food for thought, same kitchen. The word "race" does not appear in the video.

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Old 09-08-2020, 01:32 AM   #133
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What's the point? If my success is 5% or 95% luck so what? I have no control over that so I'm certainly not taking advantage of anyone, not cheating anyone. It's nothing to feel guilty about. Sometimes I come home from the casino with full pockets and sometimes with empty pockets.
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:35 AM   #134
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Here's another book on race which I haven't read.

https://www.amazon.com/Caste-Origins...9564092&sr=8-2

I did hear an interview with her though and her thoughts would seem to give people wiggle room on the are you a racist question by casting the whole thing as a caste system where folks are given expected roles which they can break out of if they happen to have the right talents. She was very thoughtful about what this means to a poor white. She mentioned that when MLK visited an untouchables school in India he was introduced as an American untouchable which apparently had quite an impact on him.

She wrote a well received book on the Great Migration a few years ago.
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Old 09-10-2020, 10:43 PM   #135
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There is no reason you can't be here pissing off extremists on both sides.
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