'Splain Please......

monster · 11-18-2011, 05:28 PM

Merkins, pls 'splain how here -where even British shows are captioned if the accent is anything other than BBC- Nena's German 99 Luftballons was the version that got popular, while Britian enjoyed 99 Red Balloons -an English language version (German version was the "B" side).

regular.joe · 11-18-2011, 06:28 PM

Disney corporation spent a pile of money back in the 80's to find out what people, Merkins in particular, liked. To the end that they could make more money with movies and marketing the stuff that movies lend to marketing.

Conclusion of study: There is not accounting for public opinion.

jimhelm · 11-18-2011, 06:50 PM

I prefer Goldfinger's version

regular.joe · 11-18-2011, 08:49 PM

Freaking AWESOME!!!!

Trilby · 11-19-2011, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster

Merkins, pls 'splain how here -where even British shows are captioned if the accent is anything other than BBC- Nena's German 99 Luftballons was the version that got popular, while Britian enjoyed 99 Red Balloons -an English language version (German version was the "B" side).

Because every once in a while we like things to be Schtocken Blocken?

I dunno.

sexobon · 11-19-2011, 07:08 AM

It's an interesting phenomenon with crossover (ESL) artists performing songs originally written in their native language. Often it's that the native cultural presentation has a genuineness that the artist doesn't translate quite so well in their English performance. There's usually a correlation to how comfortable the artist is using English in daily life as opposed to just singing in English; but, not always. Sometimes it's that the phonetics of the original language are a better match to the tune, the lyrics, or the meaning. Occasionally it's a matter of fad depending on which other cultures are in vogue when a song is released. Rarely is it just vocabulary; or, grammatical structure as in these cases different lyrics, maybe with entirely different meanings, are written for the tune.

I like several Spanish-English crossover artists who record the same songs in both languages. Some songs I prefer listening to exclusively in Spanish, others in English, and the decision is usually made early on as the subconscious impression quickly forms involving all of the aforementioned factors.

Trilby · 11-19-2011, 07:11 AM

remember numa-numa?

Good times.

Trilby · 11-19-2011, 07:16 AM

I misspelled it.

I meant this:

http://youtu.be/Qo_2ReMNzhU

Spexxvet · 11-19-2011, 08:26 AM

Probably because the German language version was released first (1983, English version in 1984). MTV was at it's height and put it on, and it took off. Or it could be because the only English words are "Captain Kirk", which was really cool.

Sundae · 11-19-2011, 09:08 AM

A furriner's POV?
People want to understand British comedy - as the best of it is word-based [YMMV]

99 Luftballons relies on sound and music.

infinite monkey · 11-19-2011, 09:13 AM

You think we all love the stooges, don't you?

I think spexx has it though. We all tried to sing along with luftballoons, but you heard both versionson the radio, eventually.

Interesting fact: Abba peeps didn't speak a lick of english, they learned the songs phonetically.

Spexxvet · 11-19-2011, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

You think we all love the stooges, don't you?

I think spexx has it though. We all tried to sing along with luftballoons, but you heard both versionson the radio, eventually.

Interesting fact: Abba peeps didn't speak a lick of english, they learned the songs phonetically.

I heard that about Golden Earing, too.

infinite monkey · 11-19-2011, 04:38 PM

Golden Earring loved the Stooges?

Rhianne · 11-19-2011, 05:04 PM

I think the Abba thing is a bit of an urban myth.

Rhianne · 11-19-2011, 05:07 PM

11-18-2011, 05:28 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	'Splain Please...... Merkins, pls 'splain how here -where even British shows are captioned if the accent is anything other than BBC- Nena's German 99 Luftballons was the version that got popular, while Britian enjoyed 99 Red Balloons -an English language version (German version was the "B" side). __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Disney corporation spent a pile of money back in the 80's to find out what people, Merkins in particular, liked. To the end that they could make more money with movies and marketing the stuff that movies lend to marketing. Conclusion of study: There is not accounting for public opinion. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

11-18-2011, 06:50 PM	#3
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I prefer Goldfinger's version __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

11-18-2011, 08:49 PM	#4
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Freaking AWESOME!!!! __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

11-19-2011, 07:11 AM	#7
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	remember numa-numa? Good times. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-19-2011, 07:08 AM	#6
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	It's an interesting phenomenon with crossover (ESL) artists performing songs originally written in their native language. Often it's that the native cultural presentation has a genuineness that the artist doesn't translate quite so well in their English performance. There's usually a correlation to how comfortable the artist is using English in daily life as opposed to just singing in English; but, not always. Sometimes it's that the phonetics of the original language are a better match to the tune, the lyrics, or the meaning. Occasionally it's a matter of fad depending on which other cultures are in vogue when a song is released. Rarely is it just vocabulary; or, grammatical structure as in these cases different lyrics, maybe with entirely different meanings, are written for the tune. I like several Spanish-English crossover artists who record the same songs in both languages. Some songs I prefer listening to exclusively in Spanish, others in English, and the decision is usually made early on as the subconscious impression quickly forms involving all of the aforementioned factors.

11-19-2011, 07:16 AM	#8
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I misspelled it. I meant this: http://youtu.be/Qo_2ReMNzhU __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-19-2011, 08:26 AM	#9
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Probably because the German language version was released first (1983, English version in 1984). MTV was at it's height and put it on, and it took off. Or it could be because the only English words are "Captain Kirk", which was really cool. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

11-19-2011, 09:08 AM	#10
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	A furriner's POV? People want to understand British comedy - as the best of it is word-based [YMMV] 99 Luftballons relies on sound and music. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-19-2011, 09:13 AM	#11
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	You think we all love the stooges, don't you? I think spexx has it though. We all tried to sing along with luftballoons, but you heard both versionson the radio, eventually. Interesting fact: Abba peeps didn't speak a lick of english, they learned the songs phonetically.

11-19-2011, 04:38 PM	#13
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Golden Earring loved the Stooges?

11-19-2011, 05:04 PM	#14
Rhianne Nearly done. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Teetering on the edge. Posts: 1,134	I think the Abba thing is a bit of an urban myth.

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