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Old 04-29-2020, 07:50 AM   #1
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It sounds like this wouldn't have been discussed, but do you think your father will vote for a Trump re-election or will he stay home because he secretly knows Trump is horrible?

My SOB is better than the other team's SOB, so I'll vote for my SOB.
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Old 04-29-2020, 12:14 PM   #2
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He largely avoids talking about politics these days, which is how I know he knows in his heart that Trump is an indefensible disaster--never in my life have I not heard my father talk politics. The two themes he sticks with, when he does talk, are "I don't care about what he says, I only care about what he does," and "Hillary would have been worse."
how beautiful that your father has decided to abstain from something he was enthusiastic about, in order to have a better relationship with his daughter
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:03 PM   #3
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how beautiful that your father has decided to abstain from something he was enthusiastic about, in order to have a better relationship with his daughter
Ha! More like "in order to not lose a debate to his daughter, who has gotten much better at arguing than when she was a child."
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:52 PM   #4
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Ha! More like "in order to not lose a debate to his daughter, who has gotten much better at arguing than when she was a child."
were there no times that he won, after you improved in skill?
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:03 PM   #5
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Silly bunny, one does not win against clodfobble. The best you can hope for is she's called away by something more pressing.
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Old 04-29-2020, 06:21 PM   #6
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were there no times that he won, after you improved in skill?
Realistically he "wins" by dragging me into a political argument in the first place. My real improved skill is just politely nodding and ignoring absurdities.
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Old 04-29-2020, 07:49 AM   #7
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I honestly don't think anybody would be worse, regardless of political persuasion.

It really is so strange to see people who clearly love their nation and have pride in the traditional values and virtues of that nation, choose someone so lacking in those values and virtues. I'd understand it more if he was a self made man - that at least would speak to the ethic of hard work and independence that always seemed such a strong component of the American culture - but he's an appalling business man who has left ruined participants to his crazy schemes in his wake.

He doesn't work hard, or even seemingly smart. He is petulant and more concerned about his image than anything else going on around him - and lacks any self awareness about his own limitations. He has no regard for loyalty either to his wife or his friends while demanding absolute loyalty from those around him. He doesnt have the capacity to accept that anybody else has more expertise than he does on anything.

He manifestly has no concept of how ordinary people live - and even less sympathy for them, yet has somehow been accepted as a man of the people.

Most politicians have at least a streak of narcissism, and some much more than a streak - this man takes it to an astonishing level.

People like that he says what he wants or what he means - except he rolls back on it in a heartbeat and tries to gaslight the nation into thinking he never said it - because he clearly possesses not a single actual conviction beyond self admiration
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:34 AM   #8
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I don't think anything could cause him to vote for a Dem; like you said, it's vote for the Republican or don't show up. But if by some asinine stupidity Biden made Hilary his VP, he'd definitely show up to vote against that.
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Old 04-29-2020, 01:24 PM   #9
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If you ignore enough of my words, then you are suggesting an altered meaning to what I said.
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Old 04-29-2020, 01:29 PM   #10
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Altered how? You said that the idea of internal medical treatment was valid, but the specific things to inject, mechanisms of injection, things that can be treated that way, and location of application were wrong.

To get to the point where what he said wasn't dangerous, you have to ignore enough to make what he said meaninglessly trivial.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:00 PM   #11
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All I know is that one dumbass was removed from his local decision loop by the chloroquinine thing.

Anyone still stupid enough to take Trump seriously won't be a big loss when they inject Lysol or Draino or whatnot.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:32 PM   #12
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… Anyone still stupid enough to take Trump seriously won't be a big loss when they inject Lysol or Draino or whatnot.
Some people are just too stupid to live, regardless.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:43 PM   #13
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All I know is that one dumbass was removed from his local decision loop by the chloroquinine thing.
that guy was carole baskin'd
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:10 AM   #14
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Ouch.
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Old 05-03-2020, 11:59 AM   #15
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