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Old 02-17-2010, 07:50 PM   #91
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Great. Provide your reference. I would be glad to shoot holes in it for you.
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Old 02-17-2010, 10:51 PM   #92
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Great list Radar. Other than the 2fers already mentioned, let's not forget these awesome accomplishments left off of the list.

1. Offended the Queen of England. Offended the prime minister of the U.K..
2. Bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia .
3. Praised the Marxist Daniel Ortega.
4. Kissed Socialist Hugo Chavez on the cheek.
5. Endorsed the Socialist Evo Morales of Bolivia .
6. Sided with Hugo Chavez and Communist Fidel Castro against Honduras .
7. Announced we would meet with Iranians with no pre-conditions while they’re building their nuclear weapons.
8. Gave away billions to AIG also without pre-conditions.
9. Expanded the bailouts.
10. Insulted everyone who has ever loved a Special Olympian.
11. Doubled our national debt.
12. Announced the termination of our new missile defense system the day after North Korea launched an ICBM.
13. Released information on U.S. intelligence gathering despite urgings of his own CIA director and the prior four CIA directors.
14. Accepted without comment that five of his cabinet members cheated on their taxes and two other nominees withdrew after they
couldn’t take the heat.
15. Appointed a Homeland Security Chief who identified military veterans and abortion opponents as “dangers to the nation.”
16. Ordered that the word “terrorism” no longer be used and instead refers to such acts as “man made disasters.”
17. Circled the globe to publicly apologize for America ’s world leadership.
18. Told the Mexican president that the violence in their country was because of us.
19. Politicized the census by moving it into the White House from the Department of Commerce.
20. Appointed as Attorney General the man who orchestrated the forced removal and expulsion to Cuba of a 9-year-old whose mother died trying to bring him to freedom in the United States .
21. Salutes as heroes three Navy SEALS who took down three terrorists who threatened one American life and the next day announces members of the Bush administration may stand trial for “torturing” three 9/11 terrorists by pouring water up their noses.
22. Low altitude photo shoot of Air Force One over New York City that frightened thousands of New Yorkers.
23. Sent his National Defense Advisor to Europe to assure them that the US will no longer treat Israel in a special manner and they
might be on their own with the Muslims.
24. Praised Jimmy Carter’s trip to Gaza where he sided with terrorist Hamas against Israel .
25. Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler while turning shareholder control over to the unions and freezing out retired
investors who owned their bonds. Committed unlimited taxpayer billions in the process.
26. Passed a huge energy tax in the House that will make American industry even less competitive while costing homeowners
thousands per year.
27. Announced nationalized health care “reform” that will strip seniors of their Medicare, cut pay of physicians, increase taxes yet
another $1 trillion, and put everyone on rationed care with government bureaucrats deciding who gets care and who doesn’t.
28. First Non-US citizen elected as US President.
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Old 02-17-2010, 11:08 PM   #93
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:30 AM   #94
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Great. Provide your reference. I would be glad to shoot holes in it for you.
I did. It's from my link.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:06 AM   #95
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Great. Provide your reference. I would be glad to shoot holes in it for you.
Because that's all you do.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:34 AM   #96
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You're giving him too much credit. He doesn't even do that.
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:01 AM   #97
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They all estimate that the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs.
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"So far, the Recovery Act is responsible for the jobs of about 2 million Americans who would otherwise be unemployed." — President Obama
* Context: Both government and private economists have made wide-ranging estimates for jobs created and saved by the stimulus. The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), for example, has estimated that the stimulus was responsible for between 800,000 and 2.4 million jobs in 2009. The White House Council of Economic Advisers pegs the range at between 1.5 million and 2 million.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:27 AM   #98
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No holes in that one.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:33 AM   #99
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Good. Because it supports the numbers I posted, which are right in the middle of the CBO estimate, and on the low side of the WHCEA, which itself is well within the CBO.

Or were you under the impression that classicman's post was a refutation of mine in some way?
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:35 AM   #100
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Good. Because it supports the numbers I posted, which are right in the middle of the CBO estimate, and on the low side of the WHCEA, which itself is well within the CBO.

Or were you under the impression that classicman's post was a refutation of mine in some way?
Dude, you can't take a range like that and really place any sort of validity on it. None.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:48 AM   #101
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What is invalid about the range? It's not precise, but do you have anything (anything at all) that disputes its accuracy (the words have different meanings)?

The CBO is a good sanity check. Any numbers outside that range can be discounted, and numbers inside that range can be inspected.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:05 PM   #102
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Keep in mind the CBO only deals with the numbers given to them. BS in BS out. They are certainly no crystal ball on what will really happen. The numbers have been invalidated by numerous organizations who are not associated with the government. Even if you took the low end of most estimates at 600k that is pissing in the wind compared to the number of jobs lost and the actual money expended and allocated per job created. Certainly you are not going to believe the numbers released by the White House.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:06 PM   #103
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Keep in mind the CBO only deals with the numbers given to them. BS in BS out. They are certainly no crystal ball on what will really happen. The numbers have been invalidated by numerous organizations who are not associated with the government. Even if you took the low end of most estimates at 600k that is pissing in the wind compared to the number of jobs lost and the actual money expended and allocated per job created. Certainly you are not going to believe the numbers released by the White House.
You just simply cant accept any study that disputes your position....just admit it!

You are wrong about the recovery act not creating a significant number of jobs and stimuilating the economy and you are wrong about the recovery act being responsible for the growing budget deficit
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:10 PM   #104
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It is not that, but I understand how the CBO works and how much propaganda this Administration has put out to try to cook the numbers and validate the boonedoggle of false Stimulus package.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:14 PM   #105
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It is not that, but I understand how the CBO works
You do? Is that from personal experience?

Like you understand how the federal budget works and what was included in the health reform legislation?

And yet you continue to misinform others, by wilfull choice or simple ignorance...and are completed blocked from any facts, opinions or findings that contradict your "understanding".

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