Nov 11th,2016: Curly Horse

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2016, 06:38 PM

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A Curly is a breed of horse. Curlies, also called Bashkir Curlies, American Bashkir Curlies, and North American Curly Horses,
come in all sizes, colors, and body types but all carry a gene for a unique curly coat of hair.[1]

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The Curlies are known for their calm, intelligent and friendly personality. They show an easily trainable temperament.
They are also known for having a tough constitution and great stamina. Most people have found that the curlies enjoy being
around people. The curlies are typically not flighty. They tend to do more reasoning than most breeds.
They are very reliable and have a great work ethic.[2]

Now if someone leaves a horses head on your bed while you sleep, wouldn't it be nicer to wake up to a fuzzy one.

lumberjim · 11-10-2016, 06:43 PM

A soulless Ginger Horse. Looks like it smells bad.

sexobon · 11-10-2016, 10:57 PM

You can ride a horse and shine your boots at the same time.

Snakeadelic · 11-11-2016, 07:43 AM

This is my area of expertise! I've been studying horse breeds, history, and color genetics (informally, on my own time) for about 40 years.

Curly genes are found in several horse populations, and the weird thing is they're not all the same recessive gene! Someone got a curly mustang at a BLM adoption quite a few years back, and they bred it to a curly Missouri Fox Trotter stallion. The result was a straight-coated horse, and when they repeated the breeding it was always straight-coated, even with one parent that had previously ALWAYS produced curly babies. At least one gene found in MFT's is dominant, while the others have all turned out to be recessive.

I'd imagine without grooming they probably do smell horrid--most of my experience with horses is book-learnin', but I've been around some pretty gross mudmonster horses in my time and they do stink. They groom just like any other horse, though--brush the mud off and run a hose over them (provided they're trained for that) and they're clean as fast as any other horse.

One of the cool things about curly horses is that they produce less of the allergens that keep some people away from horses. They're not TOTALLY allergen-free, but those with mild allergies can often ride and groom a curly without ill effect.

Adult curlies (the one shown is very young) are less curly than foals and yearlings, and they're curlier in the winter than the summer. I've followed some of the adventures of the exported stallion *DCC Vegas, who is a pinto curly Missouri Fox Trotter. http://jakcurly.com/page-e-vegas-english.html Looks like he's French now

As the pics show, he is quite smooth in his summer coat. As a foal he was as curly as the young'un at the top of this post, and he curls up heavily in his winter coat. The background on his page is a closeup of his winter coat, while most of the photos with a rider were taken in the summer. You can still see curl in the mane and tail of a summer-slick horse, even if its summer coat is totally straight.

Another well-known curly is the Fox Trotter stallion ZGC Diego, a blue roan who carries the gene that dilutes chestnut to palomino and bay to buckskin.

The Bashkir Curly (or American Bashkir Curly) is, confusingly, NOT related to the actual Bashkir breed, which is a rare western Asian gaited horse (means it has gaits other than the standard walk-trot-canter-run). ABC's are often not gaited, but they do come in a rainbow of colors and are just as hypoallergenic as the MFT curlies even though the genes causing the curl are different.

And each curly can be pretty unique; some have just a "waved" winter coat while others go full poodle. The constitution, stamina, and reasoning ability cited in the Wiki info comes, in many bloodlines, from mustang ancestry. Many of the family lines are now far removed from mustangs, some even going on to be dressage and reining horses (both of which require certain conformation and mental characteristics).

Diaphone Jim · 11-11-2016, 11:42 AM

Someone needs to keep a closer eye on certain barnyards.

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=3...ight=curly+pig

Diaphone Jim · 11-11-2016, 11:43 AM

And

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ight=curly+pig

xoxoxoBruce · 11-11-2016, 01:45 PM

Neither of which has a curly horse.

Snakeadelic · 11-12-2016, 07:51 AM

Now all we need are curly goats and cows. Both are available in long-haired varieties (only 1 for the cow, the Scottish Highland, but like half a dozen "fleece breed" goats) but not curly. Most sheep are curly unless they're "hair sheep", which do not need to be shorn, and there are even curly-ish chickens (frizzles). Y'all just know someone would set up a "curl crazy" farm with all-curly livestock...

11-10-2016, 06:43 PM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	A soulless Ginger Horse. Looks like it smells bad. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

11-11-2016, 01:45 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Neither of which has a curly horse. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-10-2016, 10:57 PM	#3
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	You can ride a horse and shine your boots at the same time.

11-11-2016, 07:43 AM	#4
Snakeadelic Banned Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 660	This is my area of expertise! I've been studying horse breeds, history, and color genetics (informally, on my own time) for about 40 years. Curly genes are found in several horse populations, and the weird thing is they're not all the same recessive gene! Someone got a curly mustang at a BLM adoption quite a few years back, and they bred it to a curly Missouri Fox Trotter stallion. The result was a straight-coated horse, and when they repeated the breeding it was always straight-coated, even with one parent that had previously ALWAYS produced curly babies. At least one gene found in MFT's is dominant, while the others have all turned out to be recessive. I'd imagine without grooming they probably do smell horrid--most of my experience with horses is book-learnin', but I've been around some pretty gross mudmonster horses in my time and they do stink. They groom just like any other horse, though--brush the mud off and run a hose over them (provided they're trained for that) and they're clean as fast as any other horse. One of the cool things about curly horses is that they produce less of the allergens that keep some people away from horses. They're not TOTALLY allergen-free, but those with mild allergies can often ride and groom a curly without ill effect. Adult curlies (the one shown is very young) are less curly than foals and yearlings, and they're curlier in the winter than the summer. I've followed some of the adventures of the exported stallion *DCC Vegas, who is a pinto curly Missouri Fox Trotter. http://jakcurly.com/page-e-vegas-english.html Looks like he's French now As the pics show, he is quite smooth in his summer coat. As a foal he was as curly as the young'un at the top of this post, and he curls up heavily in his winter coat. The background on his page is a closeup of his winter coat, while most of the photos with a rider were taken in the summer. You can still see curl in the mane and tail of a summer-slick horse, even if its summer coat is totally straight. Another well-known curly is the Fox Trotter stallion ZGC Diego, a blue roan who carries the gene that dilutes chestnut to palomino and bay to buckskin. The Bashkir Curly (or American Bashkir Curly) is, confusingly, NOT related to the actual Bashkir breed, which is a rare western Asian gaited horse (means it has gaits other than the standard walk-trot-canter-run). ABC's are often not gaited, but they do come in a rainbow of colors and are just as hypoallergenic as the MFT curlies even though the genes causing the curl are different. And each curly can be pretty unique; some have just a "waved" winter coat while others go full poodle. The constitution, stamina, and reasoning ability cited in the Wiki info comes, in many bloodlines, from mustang ancestry. Many of the family lines are now far removed from mustangs, some even going on to be dressage and reining horses (both of which require certain conformation and mental characteristics).

11-11-2016, 11:42 AM	#5
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	Someone needs to keep a closer eye on certain barnyards. http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=3...ight=curly+pig

11-11-2016, 11:43 AM	#6
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	And http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ight=curly+pig

11-12-2016, 07:51 AM	#8
Snakeadelic Banned Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 660	Now all we need are curly goats and cows. Both are available in long-haired varieties (only 1 for the cow, the Scottish Highland, but like half a dozen "fleece breed" goats) but not curly. Most sheep are curly unless they're "hair sheep", which do not need to be shorn, and there are even curly-ish chickens (frizzles). Y'all just know someone would set up a "curl crazy" farm with all-curly livestock...

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