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Old 08-28-2012, 03:38 PM   #31
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Ladies! You got the vote in 1920. You've been the majority since 1945. You better get off your collective butts and do some politicking before kitchen chains, and chastity belts, become mandatory.
I'm wondering about the psychology of women who stand with Akin on this. Sometimes I think the humans are broken.
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:41 PM   #32
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It's a depressing thought, but generally speaking if you look at any deeply patriarchal society, mothers are often the ones who hold it up.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:06 PM   #33
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Yup. I remember my first abusive husband, a Saudi, telling me about his mother's advice. She told him to break his wife's spirit completely, then reshape her into what he wanted her to be.

My response was...but then I wouldn't be anything like the woman you married, would I? .

I was 18 yrs old.

Anyway, a lot of women just can't see past their personal disapproval and narrow-mindedness.
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:48 AM   #34
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Slightly OT, but I was reading an article the other day about women who are proud to be housewives and look after their husbands.
I was put off by the passive-aggressive tone TBH.

But I did wonder what they were teaching their children.
One woman mentioned teaching her daughters cooking and how to make sweet treats for Daddy. Well, that's lovely - of course. And if you want them to grow up into a housewife like you that's also education. But she also had a son. I wonder what she was teaching him? I wonder if he was treated in a similar way to Daddy?

I have no personal issues with women who treat their family as their job. Bloody good luck to them, it's not an easy one and it's very important. It's the deification of the breadwinner that makes me cringe slightly. The majority of couples both have to work, and I'm not sure the example is a great one to set when this is likely to be the case.

Oh, just as an aside, the three women featured were significantly younger than their spouses. One had married at 19, fresh out of 6th form. Couldn't help thinking that may have been a factor.
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:49 PM   #35
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Back in the 60s they started preaching women could have it all. I don't remember anyone pointing out how fucking hard it would be. I'm afraid many girls got the impression it was mandatory to have it all, when they should have noted they may have a choice. Sure a single mom has to, but others can choose to be a homemaker, or a business professional, there's certainly no shame in either choice.
If you do decide you want it all, it may be better not to have it all at once, but rather approach things in secession.
The real progress is having choices.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:57 AM   #36
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Love the first two on the list

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Old 08-31-2012, 10:50 PM   #37
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Virtually identical to that of the DNC. This list is compiled by those who are charged with protecting them, not the RNC nor DNC.

Now, what was your point?
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:47 PM   #38
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"Whole fruit"...


now why would that be a worry?
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:16 AM   #39
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They did not ban pies?
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:47 AM   #40
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They did not ban pies?
*snickerdoodles*

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Old 09-02-2012, 11:59 AM   #41
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They did not ban pies?
And end up turning away someone holding an apple pie? That would be tantamount to embracing Communism.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:41 PM   #42
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They're turning away baseballs, and probably wouldn't let you bring a Chevy in the hall.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:08 AM   #43
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Virtually identical to that of the DNC. This list is compiled by those who are charged with protecting them, not the RNC nor DNC.

Now, what was your point?
Are you that dense?
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:51 PM   #44
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I've some small idea of what abortion will cost one emotionally -- even if you're just the other partner. And the condom broke. (Lube yourself before putting the condom on -- not only is it lots more fun but it prevents you overstretching it.)

Could have been a lot rougher than it was, though -- Mother Nature took a hand. We didn't have to do any deciding.

That kind of thing moves me to ask a rather cutting question, MTP: you're so exercised about all this -- just how many abortions have you had? If one or more, were they so very easy as you seem to expect?

I'm not registered Republican, but Libertarian, and I'm hardly describable as anti-abortion -- close control of when and how one breeds is desirable. I'm saying it's no easy thing, and not at all light.

You've taken as gospel a hitpiece, and the hitpiece mentality found in this cluster of articles may be shown in one of those linked in your linked article, which I quote:



A ravening fury directed at all of Arizona other than the Grand Canyon, about. Apparently, for being Arizona. Mob psychology stuff. Your lot just keep proving Ann Coulter is right about you.

Not a hit piece -- from the Arizona Republic.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:26 AM   #45
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And a "libertarian" that doesn't understand why women are telling the government to mind their own fucking business.
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