Why didn't Hollywood save New Orleans? - Page 2

Happy Monkey · 09-04-2005, 10:30 AM

Perfectly.

OnyxCougar · 09-04-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

George Jr did numerous actions to encourage the "He hates blacks" assumption. #1 on my list is all that food, water, and medicine that was not delivered by Air Force One.

This racist propaganda is really starting to irritate me.

Don't listed to Jesse Jackson and Keynes. There are white people that are starving and dying, and creoles starving and dying and hispanics and chinese and all kinds of other people dying too.

NEWS FLASH:::

IT'S NOT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!

It's about poor, sick, old and stupid people.

Those come in all flavors.

Please, stop buying into the race issue. It's not there. It's more a class issue.

Trilby · 09-04-2005, 11:12 AM

Just read on the Guardian Unlimited (online version) that vacationing Brits were told, "sorry, find your own way out. We're here for Americans." If that's true---sheesh!

wolf · 09-04-2005, 05:25 PM

Important telethon update!

The first and last four hours of the Jerry Lewis Labor Day Telethon are going for Hurricane Katrina relief.

tw · 09-04-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tw
George Jr did numerous actions to encourage the "He hates blacks" assumption. #1 on my list is all that food, water, and medicine that was not delivered by Air Force One.

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

This racist propaganda is really starting to irritate me.

Then don't respond with emotion (ie "irritate me"). Deal with the facts - bluntly. Show me where the president did one action to demonstrate he was not racist. Not one reason exists to believe this is an accusation of racism. To believe otherwise is to take what was posted completely out of context. It is a simple statement. Show me one action by George Jr during this New Orleans disaster that could demonstrate he was not a racist. It is a simple question of logic that requires a simple answer in logic. Show me.

Trilby · 09-04-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Show me one action by George Jr during this New Orleans disaster that could demonstrate he was not a racist. It is a simple question of logic that requires a simple answer in logic. Show me.

um...he kissed two really attractive and recently washed black girls?

Too easy.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-04-2005, 06:40 PM

Thomas Jefferson kissed Sally Hemings, too.

warch · 09-04-2005, 07:05 PM

Racism is the simplistic, but passionate, historically based argument. Bye bye blackbird. And I can see how it would sting at bit.

Incompetence or racism? I'm going with incompetence exaserbated by classism and lack of political clout.

What was revealed to me was what living in poverty and/or being elderly during a natural disaster looks like. Desperate. Unfortunatly expendible. The working poor.

Why did it take so long to get the military there?
Should Bush get some blame? He's the CEO after all. He waited too many days, flew in, noted inadequacies and within hours the choppers landed and turned the tide. Why the wait? When Harry Connick can drive right in safely days ealier, why cant a truck of water or a bus? The excuses are so lame.
Glad that James Lee Witt, former kick ass FEMA director that Bush let go, was hired by Gov Blanco to coordinate there. Bet she's wishing she'd gone to the private consultant earlier.
Brown turns out basically to be a lawyer college buddy of Bush's campaign manager with little experience in disaster management. Hey who screened that application! (that's sarcasm)

bargalunan · 09-04-2005, 08:53 PM

Why didn't Hollywood save New Orleans ?

I would give one Oscar to GW Bush for his performance in "The fourth day after Hurricane Katrina".

And another Oscar for his shirtsleeves...

I don't know what's this story : "Thomas Jefferson kissed Sally Hemings". Can you help me ?

New Orleans, army, racism and black people remind me of a riot several years ago in the 80's, in... ? Los Angeles ?
Our police minister (Sarkozy, can be GWB's best friend) has recently said he wanted to "use the Karcher" in the suburbs of Paris (against people !)

Clodfobble · 09-04-2005, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bargalunan

I don't know what's this story : "Thomas Jefferson kissed Sally Hemings". Can you help me ?

It is widely known that Thomas Jefferson had a sexual relationship with (and I'm pretty sure children by) one of his slaves, Sally Hemings.

09-04-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

This racist propaganda is really starting to irritate me.

Don't listed to Jesse Jackson and Keynes. There are white people that are starving and dying, and creoles starving and dying and hispanics and chinese and all kinds of other people dying too.

NEWS FLASH:::

IT'S NOT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!

It's about poor, sick, old and stupid people.

Those come in all flavors.

Please, stop buying into the race issue. It's not there. It's more a class issue.

Earth to La La Land. Race and class are still inexticably meshed in today's United States. And just how many white and Chinese people did you see on the evening news awaiting rescue? Hello?

And you brought it up, not me, by the way. But since you mention it...

09-05-2005, 12:11 AM

Oh, yeah, BTW, if its a class issue that makes it better? HUH? What, the poor deserve to die and the rich get to live?

NICOTINEGUN · 09-05-2005, 02:11 AM

TW said: "Show me where the president did one action to demonstrate he was not racist."

"Show me one action by George Jr during this New Orleans disaster that could demonstrate he was not a racist. It is a simple question of logic that requires a simple answer in logic."

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TW, it sounds like you are saying W. has to prove he isn't a racist before he proves he is one. Maybe I am wrong here, but that is what I read. If that is what you are saying, show me one thing that says W. is a racist. And don't give me the typical "he hasn't done anything for black people, blah, blah, blah." I can show you Robert Bird (sp) is a racist. You have to prove you aren't something in order to not be accused of it from the start? Maybe I misunderstood your post. Maybe I'm off the lane here, but what you wrote sounded like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I still think the Bush Administration created a machine that can create and manipulate hurricanes and did so in New Orleans to specifically target the black community. That's racist, Man. Can you believe an administration would do that? It's horrible

Undertoad · 09-05-2005, 07:53 AM

This is the tw take on it, then, and it's quite familiar because it's been the same refrain for years:

1. Bush had his magic make-everything-better wand, and callously refused to wave it because the people he'd wave it at were black.

2. To show otherwise, you have to prove a negative.

3. If you can't prove a negative, you are deficient in logic.

Undertoad · 09-05-2005, 08:13 AM

Sean Penn is on CNN right now, he's down there working in N.O. Although he used most of his CNN airtime criticizing the feds

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09-04-2005, 06:40 PM	#22
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09-05-2005, 02:11 AM	#28
NICOTINEGUN Resident President Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 82	The Hurrican Machine: Black People Beware!!!! TW said: "Show me where the president did one action to demonstrate he was not racist." "Show me one action by George Jr during this New Orleans disaster that could demonstrate he was not a racist. It is a simple question of logic that requires a simple answer in logic." . TW, it sounds like you are saying W. has to prove he isn't a racist before he proves he is one. Maybe I am wrong here, but that is what I read. If that is what you are saying, show me one thing that says W. is a racist. And don't give me the typical "he hasn't done anything for black people, blah, blah, blah." I can show you Robert Bird (sp) is a racist. You have to prove you aren't something in order to not be accused of it from the start? Maybe I misunderstood your post. Maybe I'm off the lane here, but what you wrote sounded like that. Correct me if I'm wrong. I still think the Bush Administration created a machine that can create and manipulate hurricanes and did so in New Orleans to specifically target the black community. That's racist, Man. Can you believe an administration would do that? It's horrible __________________ Hurricanes are racist! Last edited by NICOTINEGUN; 09-05-2005 at 06:03 AM.

09-04-2005, 07:05 PM	#23
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Racism is the simplistic, but passionate, historically based argument. Bye bye blackbird. And I can see how it would sting at bit. Incompetence or racism? I'm going with incompetence exaserbated by classism and lack of political clout. What was revealed to me was what living in poverty and/or being elderly during a natural disaster looks like. Desperate. Unfortunatly expendible. The working poor. Why did it take so long to get the military there? Should Bush get some blame? He's the CEO after all. He waited too many days, flew in, noted inadequacies and within hours the choppers landed and turned the tide. Why the wait? When Harry Connick can drive right in safely days ealier, why cant a truck of water or a bus? The excuses are so lame. Glad that James Lee Witt, former kick ass FEMA director that Bush let go, was hired by Gov Blanco to coordinate there. Bet she's wishing she'd gone to the private consultant earlier. Brown turns out basically to be a lawyer college buddy of Bush's campaign manager with little experience in disaster management. Hey who screened that application! (that's sarcasm)

09-04-2005, 08:53 PM	#24
bargalunan Abecedarian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nantes (France) Posts: 175	Why didn't Hollywood save New Orleans ? I would give one Oscar to GW Bush for his performance in "The fourth day after Hurricane Katrina". And another Oscar for his shirtsleeves... I don't know what's this story : "Thomas Jefferson kissed Sally Hemings". Can you help me ? New Orleans, army, racism and black people remind me of a riot several years ago in the 80's, in... ? Los Angeles ? Our police minister (Sarkozy, can be GWB's best friend) has recently said he wanted to "use the Karcher" in the suburbs of Paris (against people !)

09-05-2005, 12:11 AM	#27
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Oh, yeah, BTW, if its a class issue that makes it better? HUH? What, the poor deserve to die and the rich get to live?

09-05-2005, 07:53 AM	#29
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This is the tw take on it, then, and it's quite familiar because it's been the same refrain for years: 1. Bush had his magic make-everything-better wand, and callously refused to wave it because the people he'd wave it at were black. 2. To show otherwise, you have to prove a negative. 3. If you can't prove a negative, you are deficient in logic.

09-05-2005, 08:13 AM	#30
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Sean Penn is on CNN right now, he's down there working in N.O. Although he used most of his CNN airtime criticizing the feds

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