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Old 02-12-2008, 02:17 PM   #1
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No one will ever be the "next Jordan", but LeBron could be the impact player the NBA needs if the Cavs hadn't taken that golden ticket and used it for a bar napkin. There's no organization to the supporting cast so when James has an off night, no one is established as the pick-up guy and the whole team goes to hell.

Further, the Knicks are a laughingstock anywhere you go, the Spurs aren't that inspiring (For every great Tim Duncan play, I see a blatant flop from Ginobili. It makes me want to throw things.), and all the talent is in half of the league save for the Celtics.

A Lakers-Celtics finals could re-energize things, but it'd have to go to 6 or 7. A blowout by the Lakers after the Celtics go through the coronation that is the Eastern Conference playoffs would further cripple the league.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:39 PM   #2
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No one will ever be the "next Jordan"
You can't say that.
A player may come along to be far superior than Jordan.
There are 2 very young players alive today who seem to be of the absolute elite.
You will clearly not hear from them for the next 5 years, but there are some heavy duty prospects out there.

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, but LeBron could be the impact player the NBA needs if the Cavs hadn't taken that golden ticket and used it for a bar napkin. There's no organization to the supporting cast so when James has an off night, no one is established as the pick-up guy and the whole team goes to hell.

Further, the Knicks are a laughingstock anywhere you go, the Spurs aren't that inspiring (For every great Tim Duncan play, I see a blatant flop from Ginobili. It makes me want to throw things.)
I agree with all the above.

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, all the talent is in half of the league save for the Celtics.
I don't see it that way.
Put the Celtics aside? I think its pretty much even after that.

There's some great work being done through out the league.
I'm being impressed by quite a few coaches!

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A Lakers-Celtics finals could re-energize things, but it'd have to go to 6 or 7. A blowout by the Lakers after the Celtics go through the coronation that is the Eastern Conference playoffs would further cripple the league.
As I said above, I don't think the Celtics will be taxed any more than the Lakers will be should it come to those two in the final.

The scenario looks extremely poissible on two very important levels.

1st: It would bring attention to a sport few watch these days.
2nd: The Celtics and the Lakers are easily the two best teams in the NBA at this time.

I bet on that scenario when it was at 25/1
That scenario at this time pays 12/1, and I strongly recommend it !

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I've been hearing a lot of talk about the Detroit Pistons.
I don't buy it.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:17 PM   #3
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Who are you looking at for the Champion's League, W.H.I.P.?
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Who are you looking at for the Champion's League, W.H.I.P.?
Chelsea(ENG) vs Olympiacos(GRE)
This really is kind of a joke.
It does not matter how it comes in these two legs.
Chelsea will progress!

AC Milan(ITA) vs Arsenal(ENG)
The power behind AC Milan is overwhelming.
Even if this is played straight up, you can't look past Wenger, who has proven time and time again, that his priorities are all mixed up.
AC Milan will progress!

Sevilla(SPA) vs fernerbahce(TUR)
Sevilla is simply too good at home and regardless of the result of the first leg, they will cover it at home.
Sevilla will progress!

Shalke(GER) vs Porto(POR)
Shalke in fact, is superior, and should progress.

Roma(ITA) vs Real Madrid(SPA)
I would not be suprised if I saw an upset here.

Barcelona(SPA) vs Celtic(SCO)
Looks like a huge difference here.
If Celtic show their true face, they will trouble Barca.

Liverpool(ENG) vs Internazionale(ITA)
Liverpool has been the dominant english team in the CL these past years, but at this particular juncture they face problems within.
Inter is clearly the underdog, but may take advantage of the imbalances within the English squad.

Lyonnais(FRA) vs Man.United(ENG)
This is the most likely upset of this round!
Lyon is elite!
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:38 PM   #5
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AC Milan(ITA) vs Arsenal(ENG)
The power behind AC Milan is overwhelming.
Even if this is played straight up, you can't look past Wenger, who has proven time and time again, that his priorities are all mixed up.
AC Milan will progress!
I'm an Arsenal man but I think you have the winner correct. I do however disagree about the priorities as the league title is far more important and impressive, IMO.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:46 PM   #6
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I'm an Arsenal man but I think you have the winner correct. I do however disagree about the priorities as the league title is far more important and impressive, IMO.
Only in the eyes of the English.

The Champions league trophy is in fact the greatest award out there for a European franchise.

Wenger has proven that he has never seen the CL as a priority.
This condemns Arsenal's chances in this competition.
Facing Berlusconi furthermore condemns the team.
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:46 AM   #7
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I can understand your perspective on that. I do however rate the league higher than the cup simply because it is harder to obtain. Best performance over 38 games vs home and away games against a small handful of teams.

Champion's League is definitely more prestigious now, but I continue to rate the league higher.
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Old 02-19-2008, 11:25 AM   #8
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You can't say that.
A player may come along to be far superior than Jordan.
I'm not saying that no one will ever come along and surpass Jordan's accomplishments on the court. My contention is that no one will come along and precisely duplicate what Jordan could do/did. It may be semantics, but when you look at it, once a player reaches an established level of greatness, we refer to them by their own names rather than in comparison to those that came before.

The East in the NBA is weak, though. How can you say that, Celtics aside, the conferences are even when the East has three teams playing sub-.500 basketball going to the playoffs (Washington, New Jersey, Philly)? As it stands right now, to start the playoffs with winning records, WAS would have to go (minimum) 17-13 and NJ / PHI must each go 19-10 down the stretch. Beyond that, only Boston has locked down a winning record against the West for this year (16-0 with 14 more West games left), with Detroit and Cleveland currently better than the West, though nothing's locked down.

Compare that to the West, where all the current playoff teams are playing .600 ball or better, all of them have winning records against the East with two lockdowns (Suns & Lakers), and four others within spitting distance of that feat (Spurs needs one more East win, Utah/Golden State/Houston each need two)

Hockey, there's a little more equivocation since any one given team only plays one game against two of the three divisions in the other conference, so I'm not as confident in the numbers there. But basketball? WHIP, if you see something I don't that could give hope to the East (or, be still my heart, the Professional Basketball Team Formerly Known as the New York Knicks), please share. I implore you.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:09 PM   #9
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The East in the NBA is weak, though. How can you say that, Celtics aside, the conferences are even when the East has three teams playing sub-.500 basketball going to the playoffs (Washington, New Jersey, Philly)? As it stands right now, to start the playoffs with winning records, WAS would have to go (minimum) 17-13 and NJ / PHI must each go 19-10 down the stretch. Beyond that, only Boston has locked down a winning record against the West for this year (16-0 with 14 more West games left), with Detroit and Cleveland currently better than the West, though nothing's locked down.

Compare that to the West, where all the current playoff teams are playing .600 ball or better, all of them have winning records against the East with two lockdowns (Suns & Lakers), and four others within spitting distance of that feat (Spurs needs one more East win, Utah/Golden State/Houston each need two)
On the lower scale of things, yes.
look... when it comes to wagering large sums of money, one must consider all things.
The greatest percentage of my money is on the Celtics making it to the Finals.
My next greatest percentage of money is on the Celtics winning it.
The rest would be divided into smaller bets as to cover should the main bet fail.
The western conference is so up in the air that one would be silly to heavily wager on that side.
Look at Dallas now!
Kidd will add a new dimension to what was already an elite team.

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Hockey, there's a little more equivocation since any one given team only plays one game against two of the three divisions in the other conference, so I'm not as confident in the numbers there. But basketball? WHIP, if you see something I don't that could give hope to the East (or, be still my heart, the Professional Basketball Team Formerly Known as the New York Knicks), please share. I implore you.
Hope to the east?
The East holds the greatest team in the game at this time.
Even in the NBA, its all about the defence.

Things are not as depressing as they seem in New York.
In 3-4 years, it should start to be visable.
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Old 02-20-2008, 01:18 AM   #10
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Shalke(Ger) 1-0 Porto(Por)
1 Goal in Portugal should secure it for the Germans

Liverpool(Eng) 2-0 Internazionale(Ita)
Still a game left, no doubt... and in Italy at that.
However, Liverpool has proven time and time again. that it is the greatest representative from England.
Ranked, by far, the #1 English team in this Millennium.

Roma(Ita) 2-1 Real Madrid(Spa)
Roma's win leaves it open in Spain.
As I said before, I will not be suprised at all if Roma pulls it off.

Olympiakos(Gre) 0-0 Chelsea(Eng)
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This really is kind of a joke.
It does not matter how it comes in these two legs.
Chelsea will progress!
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Bordeaux(Fra) vs Anderlecht(Bel)
1st leg was 1-0 for the Belgians.
A Bordeaux win is extremely likely, given the fact that it is a result that both teams can progress with.
2-1, 3-2 would give it to Anderlecht.
2-0 , 3-0, 3-1 to Bordeaux.
1-0 would force overtime.
Bet on Bordeaux = 1.53

Atletico Madrid(Spa) vs Bolton(Eng)
The Spanish side, is by far superior, and in Madrid.
Not only should Atletico win, but they should also secure a spot in the next round of the Uefa cup.
Bet on Atletico Madrid = 1.50

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Bayern Munich(Ger) vs Aberdeen(Sco)
The German's advance with a win or a 0-0 1-1 tie.
Meaning that come the 80th minute, should it be a tie game, Bayern will most likely not attempt to score.
An unlikely scenario for most who look at this game, but at 6.00 (6/1), a few coins on the draw won't hurt.

............keep in mind, all bets end after 90 minutes.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:10 AM   #11
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Arsenal 0-0 AC Milan
Nesta ,Oddo, Maldini, Kaladze the defencive line
Seedorf and Gattuso are 2 of the greatest defencive midfielders in the world.
Defencivly speaking, Milan is of the absolute elite!
Lets not forget Berlusconi.
The Italians will progress.

Fenerbahce 3-2 Sevilla
As I said before, Sevilla is to strong at home, and in this case, all they need is a win. It should come easy.

Celtic 2-3 Barcelona
Good try by the Scott's, but hope has now faded away.

Lyonnais 1-1 Man Utd
Lyon needs to score in England, but they gotta be carefull.
The English have the advantage at this time.
I will be rooting for the French in this one.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:38 PM   #12
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I have to root for man united, just because I need them to stay in this competition for awhile longer. If they can focus solely on premiership title, it will make the run in even harder.
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