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Old 08-16-2003, 09:33 AM   #16
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And in Philly it's illegal to wear a mask.
Sometimes.

A friend and I have been known to wear goalie and/or wrestling masks to Phantoms games, for heckling purposes (back when we could get excited about the team). They've only stopped my friend once, and what they told him was that he had to take the mask off while going through the gates. Once inside, he could put it back on with no problems.
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Old 08-16-2003, 10:27 AM   #17
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I meant on the street. They passed an ordnance awhile back to deal with protesters.
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Old 08-18-2003, 11:51 AM   #18
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UAV's over US airspace is a scary thought. It feels like grease on the slippery slope to the Thought Police.
There are satellites in orbit that can see you right now. Cops have IR equipment that they can use to observe you through the walls of your house (but in one case that evidence was tossed out of court when they arrested the guy.).

To me, the issue isn't information collection, really, it's information correlation and secrecy. If I am able to access everything about me then I am much more comfortable with the idea of the collection agencies. It's when I can't know what they (think they) know about me that i get nervous.
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Old 08-18-2003, 02:19 PM   #19
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I would agree with arz and wolud even go further: since one can never be sure that what you are told a someone else (person or agancy) is true, you never really know howmuch others know aobut you and if, how and when they will use it.
Since history has learned us that goverment agencis are corrupt and corruptable, we should be really careful here.
And let us consider an even more worrying alternative: what if the tevhnology involved would be in the hands of your worst enemy? You would not have any freedom left and problable no life either!! Worrying thought.
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Old 08-18-2003, 02:26 PM   #20
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what if the tevhnology involved would be in the hands of your worst enemy?
You'd think rhe Dems and Reps could be convinced by that argument, but the ring of power is that seductive.
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Old 08-18-2003, 02:36 PM   #21
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Since history has learned us that goverment agencis are corrupt and corruptable, we should be really careful here.
Bingo! What they know about us may not seem important now, but what if the social/political climate changes. What if the rules change. Good point, michel.
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Old 08-22-2003, 12:36 PM   #22
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All this is going to make a veeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrry interesting report to my superiors.

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Old 08-22-2003, 04:36 PM   #23
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OK,UT. Track him down and we'll kill him.
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Old 08-23-2003, 12:40 AM   #24
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I thoroughly believe that this is the herald of the end of the republic. Just as history teaches that gov't agencies are susceptible to corruption, so does it teach that all prominent republics are replaced by an autocratic government, almost exclusvely at the will of the ruled populace - Caesar in Rome, Napoleon in France, Fascism in the 1930s (thought the Weimar Republic wasn't exactly prominent, but I digress), it goes on.

/me starts making his plans to raise up an army and carve out his own feifdom when the dissolution takes place.
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Old 09-12-2003, 03:51 PM   #25
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Brings to mind the privacy song.

http://www.deadtroll.com/video/privacysong.ram
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