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Nathan Barnes · 08-27-2003, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
He's just another screaming Linux zealot.

No, no, no! He's a screaming GNU/Linux zealot!

:p

Undertoad · 08-27-2003, 03:17 PM

Look, vi is the only editor anyone ever needs, and it's better for people with repetitive motion injuries as well.

Nathan Barnes · 08-27-2003, 03:18 PM

A disclaimer for the previous statement: I mean no/very little disrespect to RMS, I think he's a nifty, if very strange, guy who has written and inspired some very nifty software. The words 'zealot' and 'Linux' in close conjunction just bring up certain associations for me.

A disclaimer for the disclaimer: I suck at vB, apparently, and had to edit my post to adjust it.

Nathan Barnes · 08-27-2003, 03:24 PM

You whipper-snappers and your newfangled 'vi'! Ain't nuthin' you can't do with ed!

<Anything 'vi' can do, 'vim' can do better. 'Vim' can do anything better than 'vi'.>

juju · 08-27-2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Look, vi is the only editor anyone ever needs, and it's better for people with repetitive motion injuries as well.

Even for Dvorak weirdos like me? Yeah, sure. There goes your efficiency. :)

08-28-2003, 08:39 AM

See, I pronounce vim "vim". But I pronounce vi "vee eye", which is how it should be. So, your little song doesn't work! Aha!

(vim is my favorite editor ever.)

Undertoad · 08-28-2003, 08:59 AM

Vee eye is the correct pronunciation, expect that there is one better... "six".

This from the old lisa who argued with me that it should be "vye" until "Star Trek VI" came out.

Nathan Barnes · 08-28-2003, 11:43 AM

I pronouce it 'vee-eye', too. The song's just as awkward in my head as in yours.

(Note the assumtion that neither of us sings it out loud.)

Nathan Barnes · 08-28-2003, 11:48 AM

I've been using Dvorak for about a year and a half now, and after that first week using vim has been as easy as ever. Of course, for that first week I had trouble typing my own name.

This may belong in a different thread, probably even in a different forum, but I've found that the Dvorak layout helps tremendously when I'm writing prose, but not much at all when I'm programming. What has your experience been?

juju · 08-28-2003, 01:07 PM

Well, I've been using it for about 9 months, and I haven't written much code in that time. I did some Visual Basic, but I'm not sure that really counts. I'm learning Perl this semester, though (as you already know), so we'll see how I do with that.

I do see what you're saying, though. There's a lot more odd characters used in programming, and dvorak is probably designed more to help with writing letters.

juju · 08-28-2003, 01:13 PM

It's really a pleasure to write with, though. I don't have to twist my fingers into a pretzel in order to type common words anymore. Mostly, it's just nice to not have my wrists hurt every night.

BrianR · 08-29-2003, 08:46 AM

I vote for "six" myself, along with "nine hundred ninety four" instead of "vim".

Bri

08-29-2003, 08:46 AM	#42
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I vote for "six" myself, along with "nine hundred ninety four" instead of "vim". Bri __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

08-27-2003, 03:17 PM	#32
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Look, vi is the only editor anyone ever needs, and it's better for people with repetitive motion injuries as well.

08-27-2003, 03:18 PM	#33
Nathan Barnes Alphabetarian Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	A disclaimer for the previous statement: I mean no/very little disrespect to RMS, I think he's a nifty, if very strange, guy who has written and inspired some very nifty software. The words 'zealot' and 'Linux' in close conjunction just bring up certain associations for me. A disclaimer for the disclaimer: I suck at vB, apparently, and had to edit my post to adjust it.

08-27-2003, 03:24 PM	#34
Nathan Barnes Alphabetarian Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	You whipper-snappers and your newfangled 'vi'! Ain't nuthin' you can't do with ed! <Anything 'vi' can do, 'vim' can do better. 'Vim' can do anything better than 'vi'.>

08-28-2003, 08:39 AM	#36
dave Guest Posts: n/a	See, I pronounce vim "vim". But I pronounce vi "vee eye", which is how it should be. So, your little song doesn't work! Aha! (vim is my favorite editor ever.)

08-28-2003, 08:59 AM	#37
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Vee eye is the correct pronunciation, expect that there is one better... "six". This from the old lisa who argued with me that it should be "vye" until "Star Trek VI" came out.

08-28-2003, 11:43 AM	#38
Nathan Barnes Alphabetarian Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	I pronouce it 'vee-eye', too. The song's just as awkward in my head as in yours. (Note the assumtion that neither of us sings it out loud.)

08-28-2003, 11:48 AM	#39
Nathan Barnes Alphabetarian Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 12	I've been using Dvorak for about a year and a half now, and after that first week using vim has been as easy as ever. Of course, for that first week I had trouble typing my own name. This may belong in a different thread, probably even in a different forum, but I've found that the Dvorak layout helps tremendously when I'm writing prose, but not much at all when I'm programming. What has your experience been?

08-28-2003, 01:07 PM	#40
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Well, I've been using it for about 9 months, and I haven't written much code in that time. I did some Visual Basic, but I'm not sure that really counts. I'm learning Perl this semester, though (as you already know), so we'll see how I do with that. I do see what you're saying, though. There's a lot more odd characters used in programming, and dvorak is probably designed more to help with writing letters.

08-28-2003, 01:13 PM	#41
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	It's really a pleasure to write with, though. I don't have to twist my fingers into a pretzel in order to type common words anymore. Mostly, it's just nice to not have my wrists hurt every night.

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