The Psycology of Fear - Page 2

Sundae · 02-12-2011, 10:53 AM

I'm with you there 2.
A god that advises parents to stone their stubborn and rebellious children isn't for me either.

Link to the Stone Your Children verses in Deuteronomy via The Brick Testament - a Lego illustrated guide.

monster · 02-12-2011, 12:39 PM

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what was the name of the last bible-passage-spewing trollbot? I'd forgotten them until now..... The last one spelled better, though.

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I don't think Klyde's a trollbot. I think this is just the stuff that plays on his mind.

I still wish I could remember the name of the last one, though. Maybe I'll have to look it up.

Gravdigr · 02-12-2011, 01:14 PM

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A god that tells one of his followers -Abraham- to kill his son Isaac as sacrifice, and then tells Abraham 'haha, only kidding' at the last second is not the kind of god i want to follow.

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Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be putting me on"
God say, "No". Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killing done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61".

~Highway 61 Revisited (Bob Dylan)

smoothmoniker · 02-13-2011, 06:20 PM

There is quite a lot more going on in that story than just that. But by all means, if the simplistic reading makes a better punching bag, have at!

Perry Winkle · 02-13-2011, 06:26 PM

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I learn something new every day. The Lion King was a Christian recruiting film.
Glad I never saw it now.

I thought it was about premature ejaculation. This completely undermines the foundation of my worldview.

SamIam · 02-14-2011, 03:59 PM

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There is quite a lot more going on in that story than just that. But by all means, if the simplistic reading makes a better punching bag, have at!

Thank you for the reference to Kierkegaard's take on the matter. Unfortunately, Kierkegaard, just like the angel of compassion, flies far over the heads of most fundamentalist "theologians."

Number 2 Pencil · 02-15-2011, 12:01 PM

Oh sure, in the light of a certain kind of faith, the giving up of all- including a son- in the face of god's demands, is a worthy act of ultimate submission and a proof of ultimate faith in god. And the act of Abraham committing to this ultimate personal sacrifice transforms him. And god is actually generous because he stops the sacrifice once Abraham has shown himself to really be willing to do it. It makes for a wonderful story with all sorts of deep symbolism.

But it still boils down to a god telling Abraham to kill his son as a sacrificial offering. This coming from a biblical world of a deity that just loves blood sacrifices of all kinds. If that is the ultimate god of reality, he has issues.

Perry Winkle · 02-15-2011, 01:25 PM

I think all of the blood sacrifices are allusions to menstruation.

(I have no idea what we're talking about.)

Spexxvet · 02-15-2011, 01:29 PM

How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

Perry Winkle · 02-15-2011, 02:10 PM

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How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

God is the real terrorist. I understand now. Thank you for the illustration.

Spexxvet · 02-15-2011, 02:38 PM

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God is the real terrorist. I understand now. Thank you for the illustration.

So you don't want to or can't answer the question?

Shawnee123 · 02-15-2011, 02:58 PM

I have to smile and giggle. oh my silly ones. woowoowooo.

gee willickers, fellers.

shyshyshy

Spexxvet · 02-15-2011, 03:01 PM

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How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

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God is the real terrorist. I understand now. Thank you for the illustration.

The comparison is about Abraham and a suicide bomber, not god and allah.

Discuss.

plthijinx · 02-15-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

easy. abraham was asked by God, well commanded really, to sacrifice his son. a suicide bomber is killing himself. there is a big difference. it's one thing to sacrifice yourself but to sacrifice your offspring is another. in abrahams; case he showed God that God came first. over everything and everyone.

just sayin.

monster · 02-15-2011, 10:14 PM

FSM only asks for your meatballs.....

02-12-2011, 10:53 AM	#16
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I'm with you there 2. A god that advises parents to stone their stubborn and rebellious children isn't for me either. Link to the Stone Your Children verses in Deuteronomy via The Brick Testament - a Lego illustrated guide. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

02-13-2011, 06:20 PM	#19
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	There is quite a lot more going on in that story than just that. But by all means, if the simplistic reading makes a better punching bag, have at! __________________ to live and die in LA

02-15-2011, 12:01 PM	#22
Number 2 Pencil Not too hard, not too soft Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Next to a yapping dog Posts: 75	Oh sure, in the light of a certain kind of faith, the giving up of all- including a son- in the face of god's demands, is a worthy act of ultimate submission and a proof of ultimate faith in god. And the act of Abraham committing to this ultimate personal sacrifice transforms him. And god is actually generous because he stops the sacrifice once Abraham has shown himself to really be willing to do it. It makes for a wonderful story with all sorts of deep symbolism. But it still boils down to a god telling Abraham to kill his son as a sacrificial offering. This coming from a biblical world of a deity that just loves blood sacrifices of all kinds. If that is the ultimate god of reality, he has issues. __________________ Is all that we see or seem But a dream within a dream? -Poe Last edited by Number 2 Pencil; 02-15-2011 at 12:28 PM.

02-15-2011, 01:29 PM	#24
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

02-15-2011, 02:58 PM	#27
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I have to smile and giggle. oh my silly ones. woowoowooo. gee willickers, fellers. shyshyshy __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

02-15-2011, 01:25 PM	#23
Perry Winkle Esnohplad Semaj Ton Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 2,259	I think all of the blood sacrifices are allusions to menstruation. (I have no idea what we're talking about.)

02-15-2011, 10:14 PM	#30
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	FSM only asks for your meatballs..... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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