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Old 11-19-2019, 10:31 PM   #46
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I was joking. I would have thought that would have been obvious.
The joke was obviously on that extremist. I was not joking. He was. And did not even know it.
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:33 PM   #47
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Sterling fellow that I am, I harbor no prejudice. This allows me to give Trump a fair shake.
Hey Shirley? Joking again? You can do better.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:46 AM   #48
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Said by an extremist to justify his emotions. And so he openly advocated the massacre of 50,000 American servicemen for no purpose in a war justified only by emotions. And in violation of well understood concepts defined some 2500 years previously.

Extremists do not apologize for killing another 5000 in Iraq for no purpose. Otherwise facts that contradicted emotions would be acknowledged.
And once, no, twice, again, tw takes up the cudgel for undemocratic tyrannies, for he loves the way of less liberty. This love keeps tw utterly, psychotically immoral, and in fetters to a fascist emotion.

And he thinks, in all penile encephaly, that America is *the* place to be a Fascist in -- and/or a Communist. But a non-free person.

Persons of more sense and less Fascistic emotions, tw, don't buy your argument. You are a slave, and you are only a slave. Except for the part of you that is bad material for an adult relationship, and a puerile whiner against adulthood and liberty.

Less than democracy and a free social order is tolerable to one demographic: the sociopathic. People who disagree with tw like democracy. Those demihuman brownshirts who agree with tw don't.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:54 AM   #49
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Hey Shirley? Joking again? You can do better.
I can certainly do even better by voting for Trump this next go-round, can't I? More employment, less Federal impedance to the economy's working, an actual pro-American stance lacked by his two Democrat predecessors, etc.

Remember that you do not have self-respect or amour-propre, while I do. You have only your prejudices, and the sooner they induce a fatal brain lesion, the happier the Cellar. Remember also that you order the world to offend tw, and injure tw.

Happily, I have more self respect than that.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:14 AM   #50
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Well, that wasn't at all alarming.
Those who mistake the Democratic Party for having virtue these days would find it alarming. Those not laboring under that mistake aren't alarmed one bit. The oligarchic road, the divide-and-rule, heavy emphasis on the latter, of the Donkey Party and the demographics that favor it above all else -- that is alarming. One may avoid much foolishness by not mistaking the Donkey Party for America.

This is the party that nominated, elected, and reelected an anti-American socialist for President, and before him a grifter, and the party whose defective groupthink offered us the Unindicted Felon most lately. It also makes a home for socialists so radical as to be fanatically opposed to... the economy.

Machine politics is very unattractive stuff when you look at the gears whirling. It is the mainstay of the Democrats.

Clodfobble, you need, if you like personal integrity, to revise your adjectives. My pronouncements are liberty-minded. You find that unfashionable, or somehow unacceptable. You're not liberty-minded, and that keeps you from adulthood. I won't tell you not to go there -- too late -- but I can tell you not to stay there. Be liberty-minded and come to admirable manhood -- it doesn't hurt or anything.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:30 AM   #51
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Be liberty-minded and come to admirable manhood -- it doesn't hurt or anything.
Oh, I can assure you that coming to manhood would be quite painful for me. I like my tits and bits where they are.
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Old 11-20-2019, 09:36 AM   #52
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This is surreal.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:05 PM   #53
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Is anyone else having fun watching Sondland and President Trump throw each other under the bus?
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:48 PM   #54
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Is anyone else having fun watching Sondland and President Trump throw each other under the bus?
I am. I listen to the hearings on a Baton Rouge NPR outlet as I tool around. It's a wonderful 3 Ring Circus.
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:01 PM   #55
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I am. I listen to the hearings on a Baton Rouge NPR outlet as I tool around. It's a wonderful 3 Ring Circus.
It's like watching the Titanic back up for another run at the iceberg.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:26 PM   #56
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Is anyone else having fun watching Sondland and President Trump throw each other under the bus?
Gordon Sondland under cross:
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. . . devastating cross-examination by Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio:

Question: If you pull up CNN today, right now, their banner says “Sondland ties Trump to withholding aid.” Is that your testimony today, Ambassador Sondland? Because I don’t think you’re saying that.

Sondland: I’ve said repeatedly, congressman, I was presuming.

Question: So no one heard. Not just the president. Giuliani didn’t tell you. Mulvaney didn’t tell you. Nobody. Pompeo didn’t tell you. Nobody else on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying aid to these investigations. Is that correct?

Sondland: I think I already testified.

Question: No, answer the question. No one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigation? Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong. And the headline on CNN is wrong. No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations. Yes or no?

Sondland: Yes.

Question: So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations.

Sondland: Other than my own presumption.
"Other than my own presumption." The newspaper and network sites are full of this conversation.
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:28 PM   #57
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Oh, I can assure you that coming to manhood would be quite painful for me. I like my tits and bits where they are.
Fair enough. Be liberty-minded and come to admirableness anyway. Still doesn't hurt.

I'm not here to steer you wrong; you are not being played with nor deceived.
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It's like watching the Titanic back up for another run at the iceberg.
More like watchin' a donkey kick at shadows.
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More like watchin' a donkey kick at shadows.
Whatever works.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:54 PM   #60
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Trump has been doing this corruption all his life. He (like Al Capone) knows he can murder someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected president. He knows how easily his supporters can be ordered what to think.

This president is so ignorant as to even surrender in Syria because Erdogan told him it would be good. Erdogan simple did what others do to manipulate the scumbag. Praise his ego.

It also explains why he believes Putin - who said all 17 American intelligence agencies lied. And why he said it is good and OK for N Korea to continue their missile testing and nuclear bomb manufacturing. He knows his disciples will believe any lie he says.

Even Nixon was never this corrupt. 40% of Americans were so brainwashed as to believe Nixon was honest - right up to the end. How many Americans watched their comrades die uselessly in Vietnam - to protect Nixon's legacy. Dejavue - this time Trump.

If he was honest, then all his people could testify - since there was no crime. He cannot. His entire life has been corrupt. So he must obstruct justice - as he was doing even over 30 years ago with his father Fred.

Anyone who thinks Trump is innocent has been brainwashed for over 30 years. He was always well known in NY for his corruption - and getting away with it. Just like Al Capone - who also tried to hide his tax returns.
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