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10-07-2020, 04:04 AM | #1 | |
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I was talking(email) with a guy in MA telling him my buddy can't find enough plumbers and I heard electricians are also in short supply. I told him these plumbers are making over $100,000 with very little overtime, which is better than a zillion dollar student debt that can't even be escaped with bankruptcy, and a $45,000 a year job. But they've shut down the trade schools and pushed everyone toward collage whether they're suited or not.
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10-11-2020, 06:55 PM | #2 |
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10-11-2020, 10:11 PM | #3 |
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I'm thinking about being a plumber. It's a bit late for a game change but it's a lot easier on the body. I think learning electrician shit would take up too much brain space.
I figure as far as the trades go people can live without a new addition, they can ignore the peeling paint, They can deal with the one light switch that doesn't work right, but no one is going to sit around with no running water or a toilet that won't flush.
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10-11-2020, 10:15 PM | #4 |
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You're right, whether it be no water or water everywhere it's priority #1.
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10-11-2020, 10:55 PM | #5 |
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My son is a senior in mechanical engineering at The University of Michigan. Freshman year, he learned to weld, That summer he got an internship -nothing to do with welding, but once he was there it proved invaluable and he made enough $$ to buy his own gear, and is now employed by the U to teach welding.
My friend (William aged 70something worked in NASCAR among other things) has always maintained that if you can weld and pass a drugs test, you have it made. I think he's right. Son is busy trying to teach daughter and I to weld....
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10-11-2020, 11:00 PM | #6 |
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I have a vocational qualification in plumbing! NVQ Level 2.
when beest and I first bought a house, we took plumbing classes at night school. It was fun. We replumbed and rewired the whole house (totally reconfigured the bathroom, separated off the toilet, put in a corner bath..... Fucking useless over here though, everything's weird We moved in to our house here and tried to fix a dripping tap/faucet/whatever. Took it apart. WTF? Took the bit that looked dodgy into Home Despot, didn't realize we were talking a foreign language when we said we needed a new one of these for our bathroom tap.
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10-12-2020, 07:01 AM | #7 | |
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10-12-2020, 07:43 AM | #8 |
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Electrical work scratches up you fingers and you need to crawl around in dusty attics some times. But I think it's good. Plumbing is fucking voodoo. You *know* how to do a thing, and do it, and the fucking thing leaks when you are done. Of course this is old work I am talking about. In new construction, you are in control, and can just do it right from the get go. You don't have to make a connection to some old existing thing.
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The secret of plumbing old work is to never re-use old elbows or other fittings. Then clean the pipe to bare metal. Make sure there is absolutely no water in the line or the steam will cool the joint and you'll get leaks. Also flux and use a Mapp gas torch. I'd say water in the line is the #1 cause of poor solder joints. Though now everyone is using crimp on style fittings.
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10-14-2020, 05:08 AM | #10 | |
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We have some similar issues on this side of the pond (though maybe a bit less severe) - the push for apprenticeships in the last few years has done a bit to offer other routes for youngsters, though its a very flawed and uneven system, and very much open to abuse.
We used to have have a mix of further and higher education with different routes for academic and vocational specialisms. There was always a slight sense that the polytechnics (who offered a mix of technical, vocational and some academic courses)were somehow a lesser institute than a university and a City and Guilds diploma of an equivalent level never had quite the cache of a degree. So rather than bolster the vocational pathways and work to increase their standing on their own terms, they decided to turn all the polys into universities and have kids go to university for a hotel management, or hospitality degree The tension between more or less academic focus is still there - the old polytechnics are now new universities and for the most part there is still a sense that most of them are below the older universities in standards. I think it would have been much better to try to tackle the class prejudice at the heart of that disparity and promote (and better fund) vocational training and education at all levels.
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