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Old 08-24-2020, 06:31 PM   #1
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Dems Go Nuclear

Democrats are apparently getting serious.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertb.../#54dea8965829
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:26 PM   #2
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I'm in favor!

Until one of them pronounces it "new-cue-lure".
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Old 08-25-2020, 06:05 AM   #3
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The only thing is that Nuclear Power requires regulation, we can't have Tom Cotton involved.
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:22 AM   #4
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Nuclear power is just fine, until a human makes a mistake or series of mistakes.
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:53 AM   #5
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It can be made safer than the Three Gorges Dam
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:05 PM   #6
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Yeah. Theoretically, it can be very safe.

I was pretty sure the Metro was very safe because it was all computer controlled. But then they had a bad crash because the sensors were not being maintained properly, and people had come to rely on the foolproof computers so the operator was not laser focused when the computer was driving the fast train down a track that it thought was empty. The operator reacted a second or two too late.

These complicated systems have a way of failing every once in a while.

I know. I know. This isn't a choice in a vacuum. If it isn't nukes, it's fossil fuels, and fossil fuels will kill our planet in the end.

I'm glad I'm not the one responsible for choosing which bad option to go with.
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:29 PM   #7
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Metro is still pretty safe. The fact that accidents like that are big news is a testament to its safety. More people die regularly on the roads with little to no mention.


Likewise, nuclear incidents are showy, but even ignoring climate change, fossil fuel plants spew radioactivity and other poisons into the air as part of normal operation.
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Old 08-25-2020, 06:39 PM   #8
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Good, overhaul the power grid and make it Putin proof, Xi proof, and Fatty III proof while they're at it.
Bryse makes it sound like rich people don't use electricity.
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:17 PM   #9
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Nuclear power is just fine, until a human makes a mistake or series of mistakes.
Or it's privatized and a venture capitalist group buys it and then fires all the trained personnel as a cost cutting measure, then strips it of its assets and sells off the fuel to the highest bidder.


Or, regulations are some liberal snowflake shit that we don't need so...


Or, Low bid contractors get Slappy from East Bumfuckistan to come over and knock it together close enough for government work.


It's not like there has been a surfeit of responsibility, ethics, and morality plaguing this country for the past few decades.



While we may NEED nuclear power we sure as hell aren't responsible enough to have it.
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Old 08-26-2020, 06:24 AM   #10
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We do need it, but you are right that there is enough hatred for experts and over-sight in this country to make it unmanageable. Remember when Rick Perry ran on getting rid of the Dept of Energy so Trump made him the head of it? He had no idea of the functions of the department. We need sensible bipartisanship to have nice things. To be fair to Rick, he seemed to get on board pretty fast when he saw what they do, but there's always the chance that they'll get shit-canned as part of the Deep State.

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https://www.energy.gov/message-secretary-perry-farewell
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It doesn't matter too much what the political appointee heads think. The departments aren't actually run by them.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:23 AM   #12
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It doesn't matter too much what the political appointee heads think. The departments aren't actually run by them.
How's that working out at the mail sorting centers with idled sorting machines?
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:39 AM   #14
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It's going exactly like when y'all figured DeVos was going to devastate public schooling.
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Old 08-26-2020, 12:58 PM   #15
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It doesn't matter too much what the political appointee heads think. The departments aren't actually run by them.
Sure, unless the department shrinks or the regulations are changed. Both of which Republicans run on.
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