The Quest - Page 13

lumberjim · 02-06-2014, 06:26 PM

I hate waiting [/inyigomontoya]

DanaC · 02-07-2014, 03:59 AM

Holy fucking awesome, Batman.

Sounds like a belter of an interview, V.

BigV · 02-18-2014, 10:58 AM

I got a message this morning asking to setup a time for a fourth interview.

still nervous, relieved though to **finally** hear from them after the third interview. That was a long twelve days with no feedback.

glatt · 02-18-2014, 11:18 AM

I'm glad you got another interview, but wish you had gotten a "Yes" instead.

BigV · 02-18-2014, 12:18 PM

Thanks!! Me too man. But it won't be a "yes", even when it's a yes, it will be the opening of negotiations. They'll make an offer and I'll consider it. Then I'll make a counter offer and they'll consider it. It probably won't go much further than that, and the subsequent counter counters will have smaller and smaller issues. But there are issues, like starting rate of pay, which shift, prearranged vacations, starting vacation accrual rates, signing bonuses... I can't think of any others, but there could be.

I've learned that however much they like me, and they clearly do, because it's unlikely that they'd have put so much energy into checking me out if they didn't *want* me to be the one to solve their problems. Granted, it's a buyer's market out there. But I will **never** have more leverage with them for large or discontinuous jumps in compensation (money, time, perks, titles, etc etc) than I do the day and hour before I say "yes". I'm aware of that.

At my last position, the first offer they made me was ten thousand dollars a year less than my counter, which they countered in turn. We agreed on a number eight thousand dollars a year more than their first figure. There's no way I'm gonna get an eight thousand dollar a year raise in my annual review.

In this case, they're already angling to learn how open I am to working nights. I strongly prefer days, but not so strongly that I'd rather be unemployed. Of course, it all depends on the offer. The actual schedule is already ... unusual. I'd want a shift differential of some kind to become a creature of the night. Like I said, negotiation.

Griff · 02-18-2014, 08:26 PM

4 interviews! Jeepers Kittens.

slang · 02-19-2014, 06:22 AM

Hopefully you'll be able to get most or all of what you want, BigV. It seems like you are a good negotiator.

What is the normal amount of interviews?

BigV · 02-19-2014, 12:54 PM

So. This was yesterday.

I called her, as she asked me to in her email, to setup a time. I called her at about 9 am today. I got her voicemail. Left a message, "call me!". Called again at 430 pm. Same thing. grrrrrrrrrrrrr..

So, this morning, I called, AND SHE ANSWERED! (honestly, it takes *so* little to make me happy, hmmm?) and my interview is scheduled for 1 pm Thursday, he'll call me. I made sure she also has my mobile number just in case.

yeesh.

BigV · 02-19-2014, 12:59 PM

slang, I don't know how many interviews are standard, four seems like a lot. On the other hand, I applied at a local financial institution, and got only two interviews, and no offer. I wonder about that since I could **easily** have done the job AND I did very well in the interview, good rapport, good vibe. But, I signed a release for a background check and credit check (marginally justifiable for an outfit like them... I guess) and I reckon they found something there to disqualify me. There's been no similar request from this outfit. Regardless, they wish to press on, and we'll see what this guy wants from me. He's the hiring manager, so... I want his approval, to say the least.

glatt · 02-19-2014, 01:04 PM

It's been a a while since we hired anyone, but back in the day, there would be two interviews, scheduled during the same visit, for entry level jobs. And normally three interviews, scheduled over two visits, for a more senior job.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-26-2014, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

But, I signed a release for a background check and credit check (marginally justifiable for an outfit like them... I guess) and I reckon they found something there to disqualify me. There's been no similar request from this outfit.

Similar request? For a release? Bwahahahahahaha, we don't need no stinkin' release.

Clodfobble · 02-19-2014, 03:46 PM

At Mr. Clod's employer, there's one or two screenings by phone, and then an all-day in-person interview event where you get interviewed by at least 4 or 5 people from various levels and departments.

BigV · 02-20-2014, 02:55 PM

...

five minutes

:gulp:

Sheldonrs · 02-20-2014, 04:25 PM

Fingers crossed! :-)

DanaC · 02-20-2014, 04:27 PM

Break a leg, mate!

02-06-2014, 06:26 PM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I hate waiting [/inyigomontoya] __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-18-2014, 10:58 AM	#3
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I got a message this morning asking to setup a time for a fourth interview. still nervous, relieved though to finally hear from them after the third interview. That was a long twelve days with no feedback. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-18-2014, 12:18 PM	#5
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Thanks!! Me too man. But it won't be a "yes", even when it's a yes, it will be the opening of negotiations. They'll make an offer and I'll consider it. Then I'll make a counter offer and they'll consider it. It probably won't go much further than that, and the subsequent counter counters will have smaller and smaller issues. But there are issues, like starting rate of pay, which shift, prearranged vacations, starting vacation accrual rates, signing bonuses... I can't think of any others, but there could be. I've learned that however much they like me, and they clearly do, because it's unlikely that they'd have put so much energy into checking me out if they didn't want me to be the one to solve their problems. Granted, it's a buyer's market out there. But I will never have more leverage with them for large or discontinuous jumps in compensation (money, time, perks, titles, etc etc) than I do the day and hour before I say "yes". I'm aware of that. At my last position, the first offer they made me was ten thousand dollars a year less than my counter, which they countered in turn. We agreed on a number eight thousand dollars a year more than their first figure. There's no way I'm gonna get an eight thousand dollar a year raise in my annual review. In this case, they're already angling to learn how open I am to working nights. I strongly prefer days, but not so strongly that I'd rather be unemployed. Of course, it all depends on the offer. The actual schedule is already ... unusual. I'd want a shift differential of some kind to become a creature of the night. Like I said, negotiation. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-18-2014, 08:26 PM	#6
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	4 interviews! Jeepers Kittens. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-19-2014, 12:54 PM	#8
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	So. This was yesterday. I called her, as she asked me to in her email, to setup a time. I called her at about 9 am today. I got her voicemail. Left a message, "call me!". Called again at 430 pm. Same thing. grrrrrrrrrrrrr.. So, this morning, I called, AND SHE ANSWERED! (honestly, it takes so little to make me happy, hmmm?) and my interview is scheduled for 1 pm Thursday, he'll call me. I made sure she also has my mobile number just in case. yeesh. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-18-2014, 11:18 AM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I'm glad you got another interview, but wish you had gotten a "Yes" instead.

02-19-2014, 06:22 AM	#7
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Hopefully you'll be able to get most or all of what you want, BigV. It seems like you are a good negotiator. What is the normal amount of interviews?

02-19-2014, 12:59 PM	#9
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	slang, I don't know how many interviews are standard, four seems like a lot. On the other hand, I applied at a local financial institution, and got only two interviews, and no offer. I wonder about that since I could easily have done the job AND I did very well in the interview, good rapport, good vibe. But, I signed a release for a background check and credit check (marginally justifiable for an outfit like them... I guess) and I reckon they found something there to disqualify me. There's been no similar request from this outfit. Regardless, they wish to press on, and we'll see what this guy wants from me. He's the hiring manager, so... I want his approval, to say the least. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-19-2014, 01:04 PM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	It's been a a while since we hired anyone, but back in the day, there would be two interviews, scheduled during the same visit, for entry level jobs. And normally three interviews, scheduled over two visits, for a more senior job.

02-19-2014, 03:46 PM	#12
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	At Mr. Clod's employer, there's one or two screenings by phone, and then an all-day in-person interview event where you get interviewed by at least 4 or 5 people from various levels and departments. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

02-20-2014, 02:55 PM	#13
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	... five minutes :gulp: __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-20-2014, 04:25 PM	#14
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	Fingers crossed! :-) __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

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