How stubborn we can be - Page 5

kerosene · 05-13-2005, 01:42 PM

Stace, you crack me up, girl.

OnyxCougar · 05-15-2005, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by staceyv

Two days ago, Arsen gave me a debit card that had $200 on it (work bonus) and said "here, go buy yourself whatever you want, makeup, clothes, hey, I don't care if you buy $200 worth of steaks and wine, just make yourself happy"

So I cleaned the whole apartment by myself.

I don't know what will happen when it gets dirty again. Hopefully he'll throw some more money at me and I'll clean it to make him happy...

Ahhhh... so all it took was a bribe..... "If you pay me I will happily clean it all up for you, even though to promised you would do HALF of the work around here."

Why didn't you say that in the first place?

Undertoad · 05-15-2005, 01:41 PM

Aha, here's the answer! $200 will get you cleaning ladies every other week for two months!

staceyv · 05-15-2005, 04:35 PM

It's basic conditioning- if you want a behavior repeated, you should reward that behavior.

I want him to continue giving me cash

And I'm sure he wants me to continue cleaning the apartment.

I'm willing to make a lot of personal compromises when it comes to cash- that's my job.

limey · 05-15-2005, 04:41 PM

Am I the only person who, in this situation, would rather spend the money on the cleaning woman (assuming UT's maths is right)?

staceyv · 05-15-2005, 09:07 PM

Would the cleaning lady also cook you a T-bone steak dinner and have sex with you too?

wolf · 05-15-2005, 10:42 PM

I don't think you want to hire that cleaning lady, but yes, some of them do.

smoothmoniker · 05-15-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Aha, here's the answer! $200 will get you cleaning ladies every other week for two months!

In what universe? Even an undocumented, under the table cash cleaner here is $125 a day.

Undertoad · 05-16-2005, 07:57 AM

SM, you really must get out some time and visit reality land. As little as a year and a half ago, $50 would get a team of 4 women (and yes, once in a while, a gent) who would invade this 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath contemporary for an hour and make it perfect. It had previously paid for one woman to come in for four hours and make it perfect.

(I don't like it perfect, so after the ex left I told them not to come back.)

It was the same price for a husband/wife pair to come in and clean my small five-room office for two hours, when I had an office.

OnyxCougar · 05-16-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by staceyv

Would the cleaning lady also cook you a T-bone steak dinner and have sex with you too?

Am I the only one here that sees a problem with this whole bribery thing?

Is that really how you want your marriage to be? "You can break your word all you want if you pay me."

What kind of shit is that? And what happens if he doesn't get a bonus so he can't pay you for x amount of time and the apartment gets scuzzy again?

Am I the only one who see this as a bad solution??

edit: So really, you're his whore, his cook, and his cleaning lady.
I'll say it again. He knows exactly what he's doing.

smoothmoniker · 05-16-2005, 10:40 AM

Holy crap, is everything really that much more expensive here? I knew housing and entertainment were, but seriously?

time to move ....

kerosene · 05-16-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

Holy crap, is everything really that much more expensive here?

Yes

lookout123 · 05-16-2005, 11:19 AM

SM - i don't even live that far away from you (phoenix) and i am astounded at the prices that seem perfectly normal in LA. we have cleaning crew that comes in every other tuesday for a top to bottom clean, everything but windows and dishes. she get $50 per cleaning - how many people she uses, how long it takes is up to her. $50. above the board, legitimate business.

Trilby · 05-16-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Am I the only one here that sees a problem with this whole bribery thing?

Is that really how you want your marriage to be? "You can break your word all you want if you pay me."

What kind of shit is that?

OC, I know what you mean, but StaceyV and Arsen are very young and mucho in love and mucho into wanting to do each other and this is how young marriages sometimes work in the beginning. Some day Stacey will get sick of it and smother him as he sleeps.

lookout123 · 05-16-2005, 01:28 PM

no, i think she is more likely to use a knife. most likely a bobbit-style alteration.

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wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I don't think you want to hire that cleaning lady, but yes, some of them do. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-16-2005, 10:40 AM	#71
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Holy crap, is everything really that much more expensive here? I knew housing and entertainment were, but seriously? time to move .... __________________ to live and die in LA

05-16-2005, 11:19 AM	#73
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	SM - i don't even live that far away from you (phoenix) and i am astounded at the prices that seem perfectly normal in LA. we have cleaning crew that comes in every other tuesday for a top to bottom clean, everything but windows and dishes. she get $50 per cleaning - how many people she uses, how long it takes is up to her. $50. above the board, legitimate business. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

05-16-2005, 01:28 PM	#75
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	no, i think she is more likely to use a knife. most likely a bobbit-style alteration. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

05-13-2005, 01:42 PM	#61
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Stace, you crack me up, girl.

05-15-2005, 01:41 PM	#63
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Aha, here's the answer! $200 will get you cleaning ladies every other week for two months!

05-15-2005, 04:35 PM	#64
staceyv Lecturer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 927	It's basic conditioning- if you want a behavior repeated, you should reward that behavior. I want him to continue giving me cash And I'm sure he wants me to continue cleaning the apartment. I'm willing to make a lot of personal compromises when it comes to cash- that's my job.

05-15-2005, 09:07 PM	#66
staceyv Lecturer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 927	Would the cleaning lady also cook you a T-bone steak dinner and have sex with you too?

05-16-2005, 07:57 AM	#69
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	SM, you really must get out some time and visit reality land. As little as a year and a half ago, $50 would get a team of 4 women (and yes, once in a while, a gent) who would invade this 4 bedroom, 2.5 bath contemporary for an hour and make it perfect. It had previously paid for one woman to come in for four hours and make it perfect. (I don't like it perfect, so after the ex left I told them not to come back.) It was the same price for a husband/wife pair to come in and clean my small five-room office for two hours, when I had an office.

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