The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Current Events
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Current Events Help understand the world by talking about things happening in it

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-13-2016, 08:47 PM   #1
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Minnesota Screwing drivers

What's the difference between a DUI and no DUI? Thousands of dollars, possible loss of employment, possible loss of marriage, and a world of hurt. Were not talking about drunk drivers, were talking about borderline measurements on a ridiculously low threshold.

Quote:
Bureau of Criminal Apprehension Cries Uncle

Truth is often stranger than fiction. Since the beginning of 2016, Ramsay Law Firm has been making a concerted effort to expose the flaws in Minnesota’s DWI breath testing scheme. We’ve brought challenges in courthouses around the state, sometimes bringing in experts from around the country, sometimes just subpoenaing breath test scientists from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and confronting them directly with the science that refutes their breath test results.
After almost a year of exposing these flaws - lack of traceable results, misleading methods of reporting bias, failures to admit just how inaccurate breath tests really are – we started a blog series explaining our methods, providing the scientific basis for our challenges, and presenting our evidence to a wider audience. Alongside our blog, we were being asked to present at numerous nationwide seminars, including the annual two-day Criminal Justice Institute and presentations sponsored by the Innocence Project.
On the heels of the last blog post in the series, where we released a series of transcripts detailing our efforts in the courtroom, we received some astounding news: the BCA cried uncle.
Yesterday, in court, for the first time, a BCA scientist revealed that they are now willing to share just how inaccurate Minnesota’s breath tests actually are. The number they cited was basically “0.01,” an uncertainty figure that specifically applies to tests around the 0.08 level (we know there will be even more uncertainty at higher levels).
It took months and months of effort to finally expose this figure, but the hardest part is done. The BCA will now admit that breath tests are more than 3 times as inaccurate as urine or blood tests, and this number calls into question any breath test that is 0.09 or lower. This potentially negates hundreds of pending DWI cases were drivers were close to the legal limit – and will have lasting consequences for drivers who are close to that other limit, 0.16 (where enhanced penalties attach).
Consider this fact, helpfully provided to us by the Department of Public Safety: annually, Minnesota sees approximately 2,000 drivers who provide a breath sample between 0.08 and 0.09 and get charged with a DWI. With this new information, those drivers are very much "not guilty."
Interestingly, we also found out that the BCA obtained this “0.01” number by hiring the very expert we were continually throwing in their faces – Rod Gullberg. The BCA spent months distancing themselves from Gullberg’s publications and questioning his qualifications . . . but in the end, they actually paid him to help them release the numbers that we had been demanding since the beginning.
The fight certainly isn’t over, but this is a huge step. We now, finally, can get the BCA to admit that “0.08” does not actually equal “0.08,” and that uncertainty affects the results of their breath tests substantially more than when a driver is subjected to a urine or a blood test.
Today was a good day – it’s not often that science prevails in a legal battle, especially when government scientists are doing their best to convince judges that the science doesn’t matter.
Today it matters.
Link
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 07-13-2016 at 08:53 PM.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2016, 09:53 PM   #2
Pamela
Deplorable
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 767
Won't help us commercial drivers though, I suspect.
We are still drunk at .04 and have a "detectable level of alcohol" at .001 or higher, but less than .04. This subjects us to a mandatory ten hour shutdown plus notification of our companies of a positive breath test, usually resulting in our immediate termination.
Pamela is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.