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Old 05-12-2005, 04:11 PM   #1
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I'm not threatened by them, at least not directly. But I am concerned about any form of extremism. And these ...people... are extremists.
Hmmm, I go to work everyday, pay my taxes, own a home, vote, have a clean police record, and I don't participate in anything violent. So that makes me extremist? Cool! I've never really thought of myself that way, but hey, whatever you say.

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I'm not aware of the NRA advocating violence and destruction or an extreme change of life for every person on the planet, regardless of their wishes.
Nor does PETA advocate violence or destruction. If PETA is so violent, how come the FBI and IRS has not taken away our tax-exempt status? They keep a close eye on us to the point of harassment, but have never found anything. PETA has been around 25 years, so they've had a quarter-century to investigate. Are the FBI and IRS not doing their job? No wait, I know! The FBI, IRS and PETA are all secretly conspiring to take away everyone's right to eat a cheeseburger. Please.

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I don't see the NRA trying to convince me that my child's life is equal to that of a dog, cat, or monkey. Can you cite otherwise? There is video of Rodney Coronado giving a demonstration on a college campus, at PETA expense teaching people how to make an incendiary device. How out of context is that?
I can cite anything you want. I'll be happy to do this for you if you want, and we can go back and forth about it for days. However I doubt that anyone else in the Cellar really cares. And since PETA finances terrorists, can I ask again how we get away with maintaining our tax-exempt status? Wouldn't the government and their many IRS audits of PETA have discovered this by now? Hmmm.

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I made the christmas tree referrence conditional for a reason. I wouldn't just shoot someone for no reason.
I'm really glad to hear that you only gun down people when they hand out brochures or do other things you don't like. Very comforting.

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And why would the market it to a children's level unless they expected for it to end up in a child's hands?
This is a leaflet that is made to look like a comic book. Do you think that every comic book is intended for children? No, lot of them are adult-oriented. I can't name any off hand because the genre doesn't interest me, but I'm sure there's people out there that can.
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Old 05-15-2005, 12:32 PM   #2
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This is a leaflet that is made to look like a comic book. Do you think that every comic book is intended for children? No, lot of them are adult-oriented. I can't name any off hand because the genre doesn't interest me, but I'm sure there's people out there that can.
True, Mad magazine comes to mind but there are a slew of porn "comic books" also. The PETA "comic book" raises hackles because at first glance it gives the appearance of being for kids. I've a feeling this was intentional to get peoples attention...you know, shock value.....an old and honorable(?) advertising gaff.

I was more interested in a link, from Wolf's link, about the agenda and methodology of the Humane Society of the United States.
I must admit I hadn't done my homework on this organization and made assumptions that are apparently not true. I thought they were sponsoring animal shelters when they are not.
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In 1980, HSUS officially began to change its focus from animal welfare to animal rights. A vote was taken at the national conference in San Francisco and it was formally resolved that the group would “pursue on all fronts … the clear articulation and establishment of the rights of all animals … within the full range of American life and culture.”


In Animal Rights and Human Obligations, the published proceedings of this conference, HSUS stated unequivocally that “there is no rational basis for maintaining a moral distinction between the treatment of humans and other animals.”
Hmmm....my bad.
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