Why didn't Hollywood save New Orleans? - Page 6

NICOTINEGUN · 09-07-2005, 08:37 AM

I'm asking the fucking questions around here!

If I had to guess, I would say initially there was nothing political so they had no reason to become involved. It was just a hurricane and people were dying. As time passed, an opportunity to assault the administration presented itself while at the same time providing them with the opportunity to make themselves look the part of the hero. That is just my guess though.

BTW, Monkey, one of my favorite SNL skits is "Toilet Monkey-Monkey Hate Clean"

tw · 09-07-2005, 08:44 AM

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mrnoodle · 09-07-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Why do you think they weren't?

Sean Penn brought his personal photographer and an entourage of golf clappers to watch him paddle a leaky boat full of equipment (no room for ppl) around. That kind of thing takes organization -- I don't blame him for being a couple hours late to the party. Plus, getting to where the news cameras are takes some doing, too. What's the point of helping if the world doesn't see you doing it, really?

warch · 09-07-2005, 10:12 AM

I'm frankly more concerned and enraged by the preventable death and misery caused by the late arrival of FEMA's "arc of relief" and the lack of urgent, powerful federal response, than Sean Penn's relief efforts. He's a private citizen. I'm not paying Sean Penn's salary and not requiring his accountability.

Happy Monkey · 09-07-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

What's the point of helping if the world doesn't see you doing it, really?

Maybe if the news cameras aren't there, people like NICOTINEGUN will assume they aren't doing anything, and accuse them of hypocracy.

mrnoodle · 09-07-2005, 11:32 AM

So the point is about whether their effort is validated, not whether they actually help the situation.

But warch is right, it's not about private citizens attention-whoring. It's about the government's response. And FEMA has responded poorly, probably costing lives. But while we're casting blame (which started almost before the first body was pulled out of the water), let's give a portion to the obstructionists. They initially denounced FEMA as an evil Republican police-state tool designed solely to bug the phones of homosexuals under the guise of protecting us from Martian attack. These are the same people wondering why FEMA isn't wielding more power now.

BigV · 09-07-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NICOTINEGUN

I'm asking the fucking questions around here!--snip--

Really? Then you should post them over here, where your language would fit in better.

Or, if you're just showing your frustration at not getting the answer you expected, perhaps you could ease your discomfort by signing off.

Or, I could send you a tape of the Oprah episode I watched last night. Zero political content, 100% heart rending drama. "Hollywood" people, dressed in non-fancy clothes loading trucks (along with and indistinguishable from numerous other non celebrites), and handing out food in some kind of soup line, and doing what celebrities do best: drawing attention to themselves. And in the process, drawing attention to what they want to say or show. But precious little of what I've seen has been needlessly political.

Or, if you're using a semi-silly question to stir the shit and babble on according to your own agenda, then the answers to your inquiries are largely irrelevant. Which is how I treat the large majority of your posts, based on your tone.

Happy Monkey · 09-07-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

So the point is about whether their effort is validated, not whether they actually help the situation.

No, the point is that NICOTINEGUN has no idea about who has done what, except for the ones the press chooses to cover. I could just as easily ask why he hasn't donated to the Red Cross.

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But warch is right, it's not about private citizens attention-whoring. It's about the government's response.

Exactly.

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let's give a portion to the obstructionists. They initially denounced FEMA as an evil Republican police-state tool designed solely to bug the phones of homosexuals under the guise of protecting us from Martian attack. These are the same people wondering why FEMA isn't wielding more power now.

What the hell are you talking about? FEMA isn't Homeland Security. It's a preexisting agency that was partially dismantled when it was merged with Homeland Security.

wolf · 09-07-2005, 01:29 PM

FEMA is

scarier than Homeland Security.

bargalunan · 09-07-2005, 05:11 PM

USA struck by another hurricane : Céline Dion

All my prayers are for you

She already sank the Titanic !

tw · 09-07-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

Sean Penn brought his personal photographer and an entourage of golf clappers to watch him paddle a leaky boat full of equipment (no room for ppl) around.

Sean Penn is in the entertainment business. Therefore he did good. Are you not entertained?

09-07-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bargalunan

USA struck by another hurricane : Céline Dion

All my prayers are for you

She already sank the Titanic !

LMAO, bargalunan! You know, you're OK for a foreigner!

xoxoxoBruce · 09-07-2005, 08:06 PM

I've got the Titanic beat......only 400 women went down on the Titanic.

09-07-2005, 08:38 PM

PFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!

russotto · 09-07-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by warch

FEMA's "arc of relief"

Why do I think that "arc" might just be more like a yellow stream?

09-07-2005, 08:37 AM	#76
NICOTINEGUN Resident President Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 82	I'm asking the fucking questions around here! If I had to guess, I would say initially there was nothing political so they had no reason to become involved. It was just a hurricane and people were dying. As time passed, an opportunity to assault the administration presented itself while at the same time providing them with the opportunity to make themselves look the part of the hero. That is just my guess though. BTW, Monkey, one of my favorite SNL skits is "Toilet Monkey-Monkey Hate Clean" __________________ Hurricanes are racist!

09-07-2005, 11:32 AM	#81
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	So the point is about whether their effort is validated, not whether they actually help the situation. But warch is right, it's not about private citizens attention-whoring. It's about the government's response. And FEMA has responded poorly, probably costing lives. But while we're casting blame (which started almost before the first body was pulled out of the water), let's give a portion to the obstructionists. They initially denounced FEMA as an evil Republican police-state tool designed solely to bug the phones of homosexuals under the guise of protecting us from Martian attack. These are the same people wondering why FEMA isn't wielding more power now. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

09-07-2005, 01:29 PM	#84
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	FEMA is scarier than Homeland Security. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-07-2005, 08:06 PM	#88
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I've got the Titanic beat......only 400 women went down on the Titanic. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-07-2005, 10:12 AM	#79
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I'm frankly more concerned and enraged by the preventable death and misery caused by the late arrival of FEMA's "arc of relief" and the lack of urgent, powerful federal response, than Sean Penn's relief efforts. He's a private citizen. I'm not paying Sean Penn's salary and not requiring his accountability.

09-07-2005, 05:11 PM	#85
bargalunan Abecedarian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nantes (France) Posts: 175	USA struck by another hurricane : Céline Dion All my prayers are for you She already sank the Titanic !

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