The Generic Support Group Thread - Page 4

11-19-2005, 08:31 PM

Ditto what Brianna said about the fat and bald thing. Earth to Stacey - hello?

As far as the poopy puppy, here's a magic trick that never fails. Its called crate training. You can go to Wally World and buy a pet crate for under $40.00. Keep your pup in the crate at night and when you have to leave the house or are busy doing something that requires your attention elsewhere. As soon as you wake up, get home, whatever, take the puppy out of the crate and put him out doors. When he poops in the great out of doors, praise him lavishly, bring him back in, play with him, spend some quality time with him. Give him a meal, then put him outdoors again as soon as he finishes eating, since puppies often need to go as soon as they eat. Praise his efforts, then back in the crate. Don't keep him in the crate for vast stretches of time, other than at night. Dogs have a natural instinct not to soil their dens and the pup will consider the crate a den and do his best to hold back calls of nature. After a few days of this, he will automatically associate being outside with pooping and being inside with not pooping. I house trained my last dog in 3 days using this technique. It works!

busterb · 11-20-2005, 09:42 AM

How cruel! Putting the poor puppy in a box. Someone call the puppy patrol.

11-20-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by busterb

How cruel! Putting the poor puppy in a box. Someone call the puppy patrol.

Damn! And I was hoping that one would slip by. Better get ready to call the humane society on me next month when my own pup arrives, Busterb, cuz she's gonna get crate trained just like the dog before her did!

xoxoxoBruce · 11-20-2005, 11:54 AM

Crate training is de rigueur among the doggie set because it's the expedient way to success.
They feed their children Ritalin for the same reason.

11-20-2005, 12:05 PM

Ooooh, does that mean I should give my pup ritalin, too, if she's too hyper?

limey · 11-20-2005, 05:03 PM

Stacey, if you don't like the crate route, try newspaper training. Yes, pooopy-puppy will need to pee and poo after waking and after meals, so spread some newspaper in a corner and put him there when he wakes and after every meal. Praise and play with him when he performs in the right place as per marichiko's advice. Clean up the newspaper (easier than the carpet), as soon as it's dirty, and put more down. Once he's learned that's what it's for, move it nearer to the door, and then outside.
Or simply take him outside at these times - this'll give you something to do instead of missing the ciggies. Basically, you can predict (near enough) when a pup needs to go - and you seem to be at home enough to take him out when necessary. Eventually he'll get the message and ask to go out ...
And I believe chemical dependence on nicotine is gone after 24 hours without - the rest is habit and psychological (no less hard to deal with, though).
Best of luck.

11-21-2005, 12:21 PM

Sorry!

wolf · 11-21-2005, 01:39 PM

Words like stressed and sad and depressed describe how you are feeling. You didn't get this way just by quitting smoking.

Go to a psychiatrist.

11-21-2005, 04:06 PM

psssst, Wolf! You just gave her advise!

Clodfobble · 11-21-2005, 07:07 PM

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We bought a treadmill last month for $600. I've used it twice. When you're depressed it's kind of hard to make yourself get up and exercise, even thought that's probably what would make you feel better.

My mom had the same problem with her treadmill, until she did an interesting thing: She rearranged her room so that the computer was on a bookshelf, at standing eye height. Then she put the treadmill facing the bookcase. So whenever she's surfing or checking her email, she walks. It's not like she has an exercise routine and uses the computer to entertain her while she does it--she just forces herself to walk every time she wants to use the computer, even for 2 or 3 minutes. She says it's worked really well for her.

wolf · 11-22-2005, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

psssst, Wolf! You just gave her advise!

Actually, I gave her advice.

C.

A-D-V-I-C-E

Buy a fucking dictionary.

(does that make you more comfortable or at least reassured that I didn't leave my computer logged in at work and someone else posted under my name?)

11-22-2005, 10:41 AM

LOL! That's my Wolfie! Actually, I have a dictionary, but recently, my system crashed and I had to reformat my hard drive, and I haven't gotten around to reloading the dictionary disk.

Besides, I'd miss your sardonic corrections of my atrocious spelling.

Clodfobble · 11-23-2005, 04:25 PM

Christ, people actually still pay for dictionaries? I thought that's what the internet was for...

Seriously, no one should ever have to pay for porn or reference material ever again.

11-23-2005, 08:07 PM

Actually, my heart's desire is the Oxford English Dictionary - a truly monumental tribute to the English language. The print copy is something like like 22 volumes, almost a volume per letter of the alphabet. The cost of subscribing to it on the Internet is far beyond my pocket, but not my fantasies.

staceyv · 11-24-2005, 05:52 AM

OMG, it's $295 a year for a stupid dictionary. WTF???

11-19-2005, 08:31 PM	#46
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Ditto what Brianna said about the fat and bald thing. Earth to Stacey - hello? As far as the poopy puppy, here's a magic trick that never fails. Its called crate training. You can go to Wally World and buy a pet crate for under $40.00. Keep your pup in the crate at night and when you have to leave the house or are busy doing something that requires your attention elsewhere. As soon as you wake up, get home, whatever, take the puppy out of the crate and put him out doors. When he poops in the great out of doors, praise him lavishly, bring him back in, play with him, spend some quality time with him. Give him a meal, then put him outdoors again as soon as he finishes eating, since puppies often need to go as soon as they eat. Praise his efforts, then back in the crate. Don't keep him in the crate for vast stretches of time, other than at night. Dogs have a natural instinct not to soil their dens and the pup will consider the crate a den and do his best to hold back calls of nature. After a few days of this, he will automatically associate being outside with pooping and being inside with not pooping. I house trained my last dog in 3 days using this technique. It works! Last edited by marichiko; 11-20-2005 at 11:33 AM.

11-20-2005, 09:42 AM	#47
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	How cruel! Putting the poor puppy in a box. Someone call the puppy patrol. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

11-20-2005, 11:54 AM	#49
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Crate training is de rigueur among the doggie set because it's the expedient way to success. They feed their children Ritalin for the same reason. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-20-2005, 05:03 PM	#51
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	Stacey, if you don't like the crate route, try newspaper training. Yes, pooopy-puppy will need to pee and poo after waking and after meals, so spread some newspaper in a corner and put him there when he wakes and after every meal. Praise and play with him when he performs in the right place as per marichiko's advice. Clean up the newspaper (easier than the carpet), as soon as it's dirty, and put more down. Once he's learned that's what it's for, move it nearer to the door, and then outside. Or simply take him outside at these times - this'll give you something to do instead of missing the ciggies. Basically, you can predict (near enough) when a pup needs to go - and you seem to be at home enough to take him out when necessary. Eventually he'll get the message and ask to go out ... And I believe chemical dependence on nicotine is gone after 24 hours without - the rest is habit and psychological (no less hard to deal with, though). Best of luck. __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

11-21-2005, 01:39 PM	#53
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Words like stressed and sad and depressed describe how you are feeling. You didn't get this way just by quitting smoking. Go to a psychiatrist. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-20-2005, 12:05 PM	#50
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Ooooh, does that mean I should give my pup ritalin, too, if she's too hyper?

11-21-2005, 04:06 PM	#54
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	psssst, Wolf! You just gave her advise!

11-22-2005, 10:41 AM	#57
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	LOL! That's my Wolfie! Actually, I have a dictionary, but recently, my system crashed and I had to reformat my hard drive, and I haven't gotten around to reloading the dictionary disk. Besides, I'd miss your sardonic corrections of my atrocious spelling.

11-23-2005, 04:25 PM	#58
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Christ, people actually still pay for dictionaries? I thought that's what the internet was for... Seriously, no one should ever have to pay for porn or reference material ever again.

11-23-2005, 08:07 PM	#59
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, my heart's desire is the Oxford English Dictionary - a truly monumental tribute to the English language. The print copy is something like like 22 volumes, almost a volume per letter of the alphabet. The cost of subscribing to it on the Internet is far beyond my pocket, but not my fantasies. Last edited by marichiko; 11-23-2005 at 08:08 PM. Reason: spelling - HAH!

11-24-2005, 05:52 AM	#60
staceyv Lecturer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 927	OMG, it's $295 a year for a stupid dictionary. WTF???

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