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Old 02-07-2012, 10:15 AM   #1
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They're not yelling at Clint to his FACE! Boo-yaaah!



It's not the economy, stupid (you know I don't mean you and you know the reference) it's I WANT TO WIN OR I TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #2
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No, I think it is completely consistent behavior.

There are many people, and Karl Rove is a prominent figure among them, that want President Obama to be defeated. This is clear, and understandable, though I don't agree. TO THIS END, a success at Chrysler is unfortunate since it can not be used as effectively as a failure at Chrysler as a club to bludgeon the President's campaign. So, "crap, they're doing well and stole our ammo". Whatever.

This is symptomatic of the serious and troubling change in focus from what is best for the country to "I hate you" in our political attitudes.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:19 AM   #3
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It is symptomatic of the change in focus, and it's been coming along for some time.

I said this to our most vocal 'hater' early in Obama's presidency: you cannot tout yourself as any kind of "patriot" (no matter how well you know the words) and want our country to fail so you can say "I told you so."

IMHO, they should all be shot for treason.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:24 PM   #4
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Not seeing any reasonable, viable moderate alternative being proposed by the GOP, it looks like an easy pick for Obama for me this year. Maybe if he gets his second term, Congress will get over the obstructionism and actually get something done.

I know a lot of hardcore conservatives. I am not doing this to piss them off.

That's just a happy bonus.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:38 PM   #5
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Not seeing any reasonable, viable moderate alternative being proposed by the GOP...
I don't see anyone I like but like most of my conservative friends we are all going to vote for the person who is the front runner for the GOP to ensure Obama's defeat.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:21 PM   #6
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I don't see anyone I like but like most of my conservative friends we are all going to vote for the person who is the front runner for the GOP to ensure Obama's defeat.
Isn't that how Hitler got elected?

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Actually, I'm waiting for Santorum to start pulling out the pink triangles any day now.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:26 PM   #7
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Actually, I'm waiting for Santorum to start pulling out the pink triangles any day now.




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If you stacked up all the sharks Santorum has jumped you'd have a free space program. Good bye Atlas V, hello shark ladder.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:49 PM   #8
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Isn't that how Hitler got elected?

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Actually, I'm waiting for Santorum to start pulling out the pink triangles any day now.
I don't think that he was elected like that. But hey, I know people that would vote for him over Obama.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:04 PM   #9
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Maybe if he gets his second term, Congress will get over the obstructionism and actually get something done.
Before I laugh in your face, define "something".
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:52 PM   #10
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136 counts of forgery in the preparation of documents used to evict financially strained borrowers from their homes.
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Employees of DocX, a unit of Lender Processing Services of Jacksonville, Fla., executed and notarized millions of mortgage documents for big banks and loan servicers over the year

DocX could be fined up to $10,000 for each forgery conviction.
136 out of millions...

nor do I see Lorraine as a "senior level executive" more like a large fish in a rather small pond.
Perhaps its a start. I hope so.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:53 PM   #11
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The Obama Administration has finalized the agreement with banks and
State's Attorneys General with regards to forgeries of documents relating to foreclosures.
It is something, but nowhere near enough.
I dunno what they could do, but this seems like a pittance relatively speaking.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:23 PM   #12
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Well, it's probably never going to be "enough".
With so many people already evicted/foreclosed there is no way to right that wrong.
Certainly 2K is do nothing except make them mad.

But, it has sounded to me as though the courts are completely clogged with cases,
and the banks were unwilling to do anything that might be an admission of wrong-doing.
Perhaps this agreement will be one less rock in the road.

Obama has called for some sort of additional $ legislation from the House,
but with the politics in there it just "ain't gonna happen" ... at least til after the election.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:42 PM   #13
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Heads need to roll. $100 Billion would be a much better start with NOTHING off the table.
Throw in a few real prosecutions and then we can talk.
Till then, this is little more than election year posturing.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:07 PM   #14
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Statement of National People's Action and The New Bottom Line on AG-Bank Mortgage Settlement Agreement
The mortgage fraud settlement being announced today is a tiny drop in a big bucket. It does not do justice for the millions of homeowners who lost their homes or hold the banks fully accountable for their crimes. For homeowners who were defrauded and lost their homes, $2,000 is too little, too late. It is a paltry down payment toward full relief for homeowners.

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This fight is not over. The Obama Administration needs to make sure that its task force goes the distance and
delivers at least $336 billion in principal reduction on underwater mortgages and $50 billion in restitution for affected homeowners.

From what I heard on ABC news, the vast majority of the money is going to CA.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:36 PM   #15
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While running as a candidate, Obama railed against 527's and said that someone can't be against them one day and for them the next. (December 22, 2007)

Earlier this week the Obama campaign announced that the President will embrace the Super PAC Priorities USA that will be backing him.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._for_them.html
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