Rick Santorum: "mainline Protestants aren't real Christians"

[Trilby]

Maybe santorum is an avatar created to demonstrate to the religious whack jobs in the middle east that they don't hold the
patent on "crazy-ass leaders" ?

[Trilby]

Also just wondering if this guy recalls that Ceausescu outlawed
abortion?

[infinite monkey]

And satan infiltrated academia a long time ago. Mean old satan.

But The Tampa Bay Tribune's PolitiFact news service is reporting that Santorum -- since 2008 -- has linked higher education to the work of Satan. In a 2008 talk at Ave Maria University, Santorum discussed the way Satan has attacked "great institutions of America."

Where did Satan start? According to Santorum, "The place where he was, in my mind, the most successful and first -- first successful was in academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest. They were in fact smarter than everybody else and could come up with something new and different -- pursue new truths, deny the existence of truth, play with it because they’re smart. And so academia a long time ago fell."

Santorum's broadsides against higher education are producing considerable blog commentary -- and may even prompt some college presidents to speak out in ways that they normally avoid. Brian Rosenberg, the president of Macalester College, normally has a strict rule about not speaking out about politicians or policy debates, believing that the role of a president is to provide a space for all views to be heard, not to endorse a particular position or imply that a college has an official position on such issues. Rosenberg feels so strongly about this that he made it the subject of a convocation address that he adapted for an essay in 2009 for Inside Higher Ed.

But Santorum has tested Rosenberg's limits. He wrote in The Huffington Post that statements Santorum is making about higher ed are so wrong that it's appropriate for a college president to condemn them. "It is not much of a stretch, I would submit, to see the claims that (1) wanting to see more students attend college is bad for our country and (2) colleges are indoctrination mills, as ones with which a college president should publicly disagree, and that a presidential candidate who makes such claims is at least as much a threat to our collective mission as any law or court ruling," Rosenberg wrote. "So with all due respect to my responsibilities as a fundraiser and as a guardian of open discourse on my campus, I am prepared to make the case that stating publicly that I am appalled by the views of Rick Santorum is not only my right but my responsibility."

He added: "I am appalled by the views of Rick Santorum. Now excuse me while I go check on the water flow in the indoctrination mill on the northeast corner of the Macalester campus."

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2...#ixzz1naDd1lLP

The guy is a whacked out nutjob.

[BigV]

Maybe he's upset with higher education because Obama wants everybody to go to college.
link

It's snobby to want everyone to go to college. It's not stuck-up, though, to pursue a higher education.

Rick Santorum parsed the difference Sunday morning on NBC's "Meet The Press."

Appearing at a campaign stop in Troy, Mich., Santorum -- his voice thick with derision -- said on Saturday: "President Obama once said he wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob. There are good, decent men and women who go out and work hard everyday and put their skills to test that aren't taught by some liberal college professor that [tries] to indoctrinate them."

Really man? A snob? What does that make Santorum with his college degrees?... A hypocrite?

[infinite monkey]

Oh yeah, he's a hypocrite.

Rick Santorum, however, is doing so. As far back as December he was calling colleges "indoctrination centers" for the left, and he has questioned the idea that scientists know what they are talking about with regard to climate change. Starting a few weeks ago -- much to the amazement of many academics -- he started challenging the idea that more Americans should go to college. He has now repeated his criticisms, this time in front of cameras in an appearance Saturday in Troy, Mich. Santorum again called President Obama a "snob" for wanting all Americans to go to college. There are "good, decent men and women," Santorum said, who are proud of their skills that were "not taught by some liberal college professor." He added, comparing himself to President Obama: "He wants to remake you in his image. I want to create jobs so people can remake their children into their image, not his."

Talking Points Memo, a liberal news site, on Saturday reported that Santorum -- in his unsuccessful re-election campaign to the Senate in 2006 -- seemed to endorse higher education policies remarkably similar to those of President Obama today. The site found a copy of Santorum's campaign website from that year, which said: "In addition to Rick's support of ensuring that primary and secondary schools in Pennsylvania are equipped for success, he is equally committed to ensuring [that] every Pennsylvanian has access to higher education. Rick Santorum has supported legislative solutions that provide loans, grants, and tax incentives to make higher education more accessible and affordable."

Not only did the website include Santorum endorsing higher education for all (Pennsylvanians), but it even quoted him as supporting federal spending for that purpose: "Rick Santorum supports increased funding for Pell Grants, and since 2001 funding for the Pell Grant program has increased by 47 percent. Pennsylvania students have benefited tremendously from Pell Grants; providing a college education for our state's youth who otherwise might not be able to afford one."

But Obama isn't pushing for hoity toity education like Snotorum implies:

While Santorum's implication is that President Obama wants everyone to have a college education like his (a liberal arts degree followed by a law school, attending elite institutions), most of the Obama push for expanded higher education has been about community colleges and job-training programs. He has spoken far more about the need to give working class people tools to advance their careers (through certificate and associate degree programs) than he has about four-year liberal arts degrees.

The man is a menace to society and seriously needs to be stopped.

And I bet dollars to doughnuts he's in the back pocket of some for-profit.

[piercehawkeye45]

I disagree. Santorum is running on a social conservative base, not economics. He would get crushed by Obama.

[classicman]

I'm talking about what the women of my generation went through and how
we fought to make sure our daughters and grand daughters didn't have to endure what we did

Noble, to be sure. not disputing that at all. Calm down.
"The guy is a whacked out nutjob." "he's a hypocrite."""crazy-ass"

Santorum was elected to the House in 1990. Then Senator 1994 and served there until 2006.
Sure sounds like someone elected him to me.

Very different situation then. I'm from PA and this is not what he ran on AT ALL 20 years ago.

Given the current set of Republican clowns, plus the uncertain state of the economy,
Santorum certainly has a chance in the 2012 elections. You are being overly complacent.

No he does not. No I am not, I am being realistic. You are buying into some insane fear mongering.
The BEST thing for those who want Obama to win would be for Sanitorium to get the nomination.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I disagree. Santorum is running on a social conservative base, not economics.
He would get crushed by Obama.

Thanks, agreed. Z.E.R.O chance.
Santorum is NEVER EVER going to get elected. N.E.V.E.R.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by classicman

WTF are you babbling about?....
Now stop wasting you breath.

Originally Posted by classicman

I didn't even read past the first line or two.
Her rant...
Again since YOU appear rather slow on what I said. Try to focus this time...

Originally Posted by classicman

... Calm down.
...

Stop being such a condescending asshole. She borrowed your 'beating a dead horse' as a bullet point to expand upon the dangers of Santorum, which she expressed very eloquently.

[regular.joe]

I'm beginning to think that if we want President Obama to be re-elected a republican should be nominated to oppose him. It really doesn't matter which one.

[classicman]

Again since YOU appear rather slow on what I said. Try to focus (really hard) this time...
The dead horse was between Lamp and I. It had NOTHING to do with her, nor you.
Yet the reality remains . . .
Santorum is NEVER EVER going to get elected to ANYTHING.

[Pico and ME]

OK, so you were and still are just practicing being a jerk.

[classicman]

no dear - That is your game.
You are the one who has been insulting and calling me names.
You have interjected yourself into a conversation that had NOTHING to do with you.
You own it.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by Classicman

You are buying into some insane fear mongering.

You can never go wrong by predicting the American voter will choose the candidate who is the worst possible leader for the nation:

According to a new USA Today/ Gallup survey, in a head-to-head match up against President Obama, Republican presidential contender Rick Santorum performs slightly better than his GOP rival Mitt Romney. The poll undercuts Romney's electability argument against Santorum just one day ahead of a critical primary in Michigan.

Nationally, Santorum beats Mr. Obama 49 percent to 46 percent, the poll shows, while Romney ties with the president at 47 percent. The national survey, conducted February 20-21, has a four-point margin of error, meaning both GOP candidates are statistically tied with Mr. Obama.

In a survey of voters in 12 swing states by USA Today and Gallup, Santorum's lead against Mr. Obama widens. He beats the president 50 percent to 45 percent. The swing state survey, conducted February 14-21, also has a four-point margin of error. In this poll, Romney bests Mr. Obama 48 percent to 46 percent.

Source

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by SamIam

You can never go wrong by predicting the American voter will choose the candidate who is the worst possible leader for the nation:

Keep in mind that Santorum has never really been attacked by anyone yet because no has taken him seriously until now. If he wins the primary and the discussed topics switch back to economics from social issues, I'm willing to bet he will get overrun. Santorum would help as a VP, not president.

I don't think those polls have any legitimacy in this particular situation.

[Beest]

Originally Posted by SamIam

You can never go wrong by predicting the American voter will choose the candidate who is the worst possible leader for the nation:

W got a second term, I understand the Shenanigamns by which this was achieved but still cannot fully beleive it.

re:VP's, well they picked Palin, I also don't understand who might have thought this was going to get them votes. sooo many people could just not put her anywhere near the Whitehouse, it was a couple of solid nails in the coffin of McCains campaign.