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Old 12-14-2006, 03:58 PM   #121
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The sound is all off so I'm redoing it. It was fun to shoot.
good excercise too. you sounded almost winded by the end of the strip
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:20 PM   #122
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The first two times the staple gets stuck, it gets stuck on the outside ring of the lock. I could have sat there all day from 1 - 2 inches away, and shot at it. There just isn't enough force for it to stick that way. I should add that every post office box I've ever seen has a lock pretty much flush with the surface of the box. That makes it that much more than impossible. My "lock" overhangs so there is space for the other staple prong to hang over the edge of the lock.

Yes, this is overkill.
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:41 PM   #123
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Is this how someone gets treated if their lives are tragic enough to make them trip out on fantasies?
Maybe like a logic puzzle --

If you believe that some of her posts are fantasy,

and everything you know of her condition is from her posts,

what can you say with certainty about her condition?




Is it charity to simply believe her? No, because our charity requires skepticism, otherwise everyone would claim victimhood and our charity would not keep up with demand. Charity to charlatans is charity we can no longer afford to those who deserve it.

Is it charity to ignore her? I can't imagine how that is a charitable response.
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:45 PM   #124
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I should add that every post office box I've ever seen has a lock pretty much flush with the surface of the box.
That's not relevant if the staple goes into the keyhole, without anything hanging out.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:29 PM   #125
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Is it charity to simply believe her? No, because our charity requires skepticism, otherwise everyone would claim victimhood and our charity would not keep up with demand.
Charity? That's not a bit arrogant. Civility on the other hands costs nothing. It's an internet forum. It's a wonderful thing, but it really doesn't shake the world, if someone posts stuff you don't believe. Why does it matter?
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:31 PM   #126
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That's not relevant if the staple goes into the keyhole, without anything hanging out.
not what she stated. besides, have you ever seen a keyhole? not the ones they draw in cartoons, now. an actual keyhole? POB keyholes are very uniform. small, tight fit, and decidedly un staple shaped.

I'd go so far as to say that you probably couldn't insert a stple into a PO box manually (without bending it) in such a way that it became lodged tight enough to break off when you attempted to extract it.

this is all smoke anyway. i refuse to believe that you believe it. you;re obviously trying to make some subtle point. why not just come out and say it?
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:51 PM   #127
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There ya go, since apparently we're on CSI now: the length of the standard PO Box lock is smaller than the width of the smallest available staple gun staple.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:54 PM   #128
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Charity? That's not a bit arrogant. Civility on the other hands costs nothing. It's an internet forum. It's a wonderful thing, but it really doesn't shake the world, if someone posts stuff you don't believe. Why does it matter?
because then the only real thing about this place is unreal.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:56 PM   #129
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not what she stated.
She said it went in the hole, and she had to pry it out. If it was just hanging out, she wouldn't have had to pry.
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besides, have you ever seen a keyhole? not the ones they draw in cartoons, now. an actual keyhole? POB keyholes are very uniform. small, tight fit, and decidedly un staple shaped.
Real keyholes are more staple shaped than cartoon ones - small rectangles. I just stuck a staple halfway into a desk lock without bending it, but it got caught on something when I pulled it out, and bent slightly.
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:27 PM   #130
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For fucks sake! This is the most ridiculous juvenile discussion I've ever had the misfortune to read.

She's gone. Those of you who wanted her gone should be happy. Not still buying into what you all continually suggested was her attention seeking ways. She's fucking gone, so just fucking shut the hell up and move on.

From what I can see on this thread, the people who've had their own way are the ones proving that they did provoke and create most of the problems associated with this banning.

Who gives a rats hairy arse if the staple got stuck or it didn't? Who cares if she's a pathological liar? Who cares if you hate her guts?

It would seem to me that the only people who care that much about those particular questions are those of you who wanted her gone, and guess what??? She's gone, so now you'll never know.

GET OVER IT!!!
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:36 PM   #131
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so, what are you trying to say?
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:50 PM   #132
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You having problems understanding again lj?
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:58 PM   #133
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If she didn't create the uproar, then someone else will soon be a victim as it is just the nature of the community.

You can tell by all the other people who have been similarly treated.

Oh, nobody else has ever been treated that way in 16 years of the Cellar's operation?

Huh.
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:05 PM   #134
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There's always a first time for everything UT. As much as I respect the way you run this site and think it's a great place, I don't agree with the decisions that have been made here and I do believe the woman has been 'run off' whether she was banned or not.

Maybe it was right for her to be banned, for the sake of the rest of the community. Certainly the libertarians among us would think so, however, there are others here who have demonstrated the lengths they will go to in order to get their own way, and it doesn't bode well for the future in my opinion.

How does this affect me? It'll make me think twice about sharing my opinions when these people are involved simply because if they don't like it, they'll just keep going till they get their own way again.

Who knows, maybe I'll be next.
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:09 PM   #135
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What I hear from you is that you need this thread to continue so that we can explore why what you think is not the case.

done and done
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