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[Undertoad]

If she didn't create the uproar, then someone else will soon be a victim as it is just the nature of the community.

You can tell by all the other people who have been similarly treated.

Oh, nobody else has ever been treated that way in 16 years of the Cellar's operation?

Huh.

[Aliantha]

There's always a first time for everything UT. As much as I respect the way you run this site and think it's a great place, I don't agree with the decisions that have been made here and I do believe the woman has been 'run off' whether she was banned or not.

Maybe it was right for her to be banned, for the sake of the rest of the community. Certainly the libertarians among us would think so, however, there are others here who have demonstrated the lengths they will go to in order to get their own way, and it doesn't bode well for the future in my opinion.

How does this affect me? It'll make me think twice about sharing my opinions when these people are involved simply because if they don't like it, they'll just keep going till they get their own way again.

Who knows, maybe I'll be next.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

There's always a first time for everything UT. As much as I respect the way you run this site and think it's a great place, I don't agree with the decisions that have been made here and I do believe the woman has been 'run off' whether she was banned or not.

Maybe it was right for her to be banned, for the sake of the rest of the community. Certainly the libertarians among us would think so, however, there are others here who have demonstrated the lengths they will go to in order to get their own way, and it doesn't bode well for the future in my opinion.

How does this affect me? It'll make me think twice about sharing my opinions when these people are involved simply because if they don't like it, they'll just keep going till they get their own way again.

Who knows, maybe I'll be next.

I think you share the very thoughts of more than a few however I do think UT and Bruce are good men and am giving the benefit of the doubt.

This benefit of the doubt does not extend to LJ because he has proven he is as emotionally troubled or worse than Mari ever could think to be. [edit] To say only part of the problem was banned. He was just as guilty for ratcheting up problems. Ban him too.

[xoxoxoBruce]

If you were pissed off at someone and stuffed staples in their mailbox lock (a federal offense), would you admit it on the board? Or make up a far fetched story to let everyone know you did it, but cover your ass by saying it was really an accident?

And if you read that far fetched story and decided it was not true, does that make your next paycheck smaller? Or make you not get any Christmas presents? Or make your lawn turn brown? Does it really have any effect on you at all? I think not.

Once you have determined she's a liar, why bother reading her threads at all? Why waste your time when you know you're not going to believe what you read, and certainly won't see any entertainment value?

Pull the wings off bugs that don't have apparent value to you?

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

If you were pissed off at someone and stuffed staples in their mailbox lock (a federal offense), would you admit it on the board? Or make up a far fetched story to let everyone know you did it, but cover your ass by saying it was really an accident?

An adult does not care. Where are the thousand of death American troops or sexually molested kid because of this story? An adult does not care about that story.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

I think you share the very thoughts of more than a few however I do think UT and Bruce are good men and am giving the benefit of the doubt.

This benefit of the doubt does not extend to LJ because he has proven he is as emotionally troubled or worse than Mari ever could think to be. [edit] To say only part of the problem was banned. He was just as guilty for ratcheting up problems. Ban him too.

you're going to have to do it the hard way, crazy chick. the trick is to catch me in some big whopper of a lie, and just harp on it forever. but be careful, i'm the big playground bully....i'll take your lunchmoney.

besides, we already had a vote, and i got to stay.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

If she didn't create the uproar, then someone else will soon be a victim as it is just the nature of the community.

You can tell by all the other people who have been similarly treated.

Oh, nobody else has ever been treated that way in 16 years of the Cellar's operation?

Huh.

ME ...and LJ has treated several other women badly.

Originally Posted by tw

(BTW Lumberjim did the same thing to april - for those who were not here for that deja vue event.)

You allow LJ to bully people he choses too. He does so constantly. He's the one that causes trouble even by his own admission. Look what he said here.

Originally Posted by limberjim

the trick is to catch me in some big whopper of a lie, and just harp on it forever.

stop harping LJ.



UT, Please Tell him to stop calling me a crazy chick and people will be on your side otherwise you will look just look like LJs pawn again AND He will continue to look just as guilty as mari because he will continue to harp on another woman which is his method of operation and your prophecy becomes something of fact meaning mari didn't cause this. LJ did or at least
HE MUST SHARE IN THE BLAME.

If I ignore his taunts I am ok? When a person fights back, like mari, they are labeled as a problem ? but the self proclaimed bully gets to stay?

Originally Posted by lumberjim

crazy chick. the trick is to catch me in some big whopper of a lie, and just harp on it forever. but be careful, i'm the big playground bully....i'll take your lunchmoney.

besides, we already had a vote, and i got to stay.

Read what he says. Use logic and not emotion. He harps on someone forever until UT bans them or they are driven off. He said it not me.

Originally Posted by tw

Quoted above are authors who posted using intelligence - not using hate. Maybe yes. Maybe no. Either answer says no adult cares. Why do you so hate her? – begging Lumberjim to make a logical reply. (BTW Lumberjim did the same thing to april - for those who were not here for that deja vue event.)

If censorship was based in consistent logic, then yes, skyshidhe is embarrassingly accurate. Those who can divorce their emotions would appreciate why adult responses such as skysidhe's, et al are quoted.

THANK YOU FOR LOGIC TW

[Undertoad]

What I hear from you is that you need this thread to continue so that we can explore why what you think is not the case.

done and done

[Aliantha]

Whatever UT.

[JayMcGee]

138 posts regarding a post no-one else ever saw?


jeez, not even AG got this anal.

[Flint]

can't we all just get along?

[Flint]

.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Flint

ouch

Ouch implies emotion. If you think anything posted was intended to cause pain, then look into your own emotions for that bias. I post with no regard to how your emotions will perceive the statements. Its called being blunt and honest - and with contempt for any need to be politically correct. What was posted was facts. Adults don't let petty discussions affect them - not for one minute. Examples to follow-

[tw]

Let's see how quick I can get banned. "Yes, Virginia, there really is a Santa Clause" . Clearly that is also a lie worthy of censorship.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Who gives a rats hairy arse if the staple got stuck or it didn't?

So many posts dispute whether a staple can be in a lock! It could just as easily been a story line from Benny Hill or Mister Bean. Clearly Hill and Bean also should be banned so they will not lie. Santa Clause lies to kids. Another liar that should be banned before he can post. Yes, this post is now becomes as adult as accusations about the staple and lock.

Quoted above are authors who posted using intelligence - not using hate.

Originally Posted by Lumberjim

isn;t it much more likely that she was trying to pick the lock?

Maybe yes. Maybe no. Either answer says no adult cares. Why do you so hate her? – begging Lumberjim to make a logical reply. (BTW Lumberjim did the same thing to april - for those who were not here for that deja vue event.)

Originally Posted by skysidhe

This benefit of the doubt does not extend to LJ because he has proven he is as emotionally troubled or worse than Mari ever could think to be. … He was just as guilty for ratcheting up problems. Ban him too.

If censorship was based in consistent logic, then yes, skyshidhe is embarrassingly accurate. Those who can divorce their emotions would appreciate why adult responses such as skysidhe's, et al are quoted.

No logical fact posted justified so much hate of marichiko. I can grasp one fact that might justify the censorship. But I have yet to see anyone post that justification. Posted instead are vindictive or juvenile emotions that justify hate. Yes this is a discussion of and contains examples of adults who are still children.

Ban Hill and Bean.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by tw

No logical fact posted justified so much hate of marichiko. I can grasp one fact that might justify the censorship. But I have yet to see anyone post that justification. Posted instead are vindictive or juvenile emotions that justify hate. Yes this is a discussion of and contains examples of adults who are still children.

Hate implies emotion. If you think anything posted was hateful, then look into your own emotions for that bias. I post with no regard to how your emotions will perceive the statements. Its called being blunt and honest - and with contempt for any need to be politically correct. What was posted was opinions. Adults don't let petty discussions affect them - not for one minute.