Transgender Second Grader - Page 9

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2008, 08:03 PM

No they're not, they are what they are medically. They think they are the opposite sex and wish to act like they are, but legally they are not.

The law doesn't put a lot of restrictions of people based of sex, other than separate bathrooms and attempting to fool people. That's fair.

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:07 PM

So what is the legal reason for separate bathrooms?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2008, 08:10 PM

It's the law. Not only that, in many states the law specifies the ratio of mens and womens rooms.

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:11 PM

And the reason for the law is?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2008, 08:12 PM

It doesn't matter, want to change it?

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:20 PM

so all the elementary schools withunisex bathrooms are breaking the law?

Clodfobble · 02-23-2008, 08:21 PM

No, because they're single-room. A male and a female would never be in the bathroom at the same time.

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:22 PM

(first law I'd change has nothing to do with bathrooms...)

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2008, 08:24 PM

I'm betting all unisex bathrooms in schools are for teachers and staff, not students.

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

No, because they're single-room. A male and a female would never be in the bathroom at the same time.

So then what's the problem with directing the kid to the unisex facility ?

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I'm betting all unisex bathrooms in schools are for teachers and staff, not students.

You're wrong.

most bathrooms in my kids' school are unisex. Same for all other elementary schools in the district. You really haven't been reading the thread very closely before spouting off, have you?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2008, 08:31 PM

Your telling me that boys and girls are using the same facilities at the same time and there are no separate boys and girls rooms? Bullshit. That went out with one room schoolhouses.

Clodfobble · 02-23-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster

So then what's the problem with directing the kid to the unisex facility ?

I don't have a problem with it, other than it will serve to further separate and ostracize the kid from his classmates. My problem is not whether concessions are made for him, it's whether they will ultimately lead to the best results for his well-being. You have to balance letting him establish his sexual identity with the very real fact that he is going to be bullied, no matter how hard the teachers try to keep it in check.

monster · 02-23-2008, 08:39 PM

in reply to bruce

Not at the same time, no. But the same facilities. Schools these days have single-toilet facilities. There are only two "multiple occupancy" bathrooms in our school, and they are upstairs next to the 5-8 grade rooms. They are rarely used.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2008, 08:44 PM

From the link.

Quote:

two unisex bathrooms in the building will be made available.

Two in the building, or haven't you been paying attention before spouting off.

02-23-2008, 08:03 PM	#121
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No they're not, they are what they are medically. They think they are the opposite sex and wish to act like they are, but legally they are not. The law doesn't put a lot of restrictions of people based of sex, other than separate bathrooms and attempting to fool people. That's fair. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2008, 08:07 PM	#122
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	So what is the legal reason for separate bathrooms? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-23-2008, 08:10 PM	#123
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's the law. Not only that, in many states the law specifies the ratio of mens and womens rooms. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2008, 08:11 PM	#124
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	And the reason for the law is? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-23-2008, 08:12 PM	#125
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It doesn't matter, want to change it? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2008, 08:20 PM	#126
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	so all the elementary schools withunisex bathrooms are breaking the law? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-23-2008, 08:21 PM	#127
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	No, because they're single-room. A male and a female would never be in the bathroom at the same time.

02-23-2008, 08:22 PM	#128
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	(first law I'd change has nothing to do with bathrooms...) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-23-2008, 08:24 PM	#129
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm betting all unisex bathrooms in schools are for teachers and staff, not students. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2008, 08:31 PM	#132
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Your telling me that boys and girls are using the same facilities at the same time and there are no separate boys and girls rooms? Bullshit. That went out with one room schoolhouses. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2008, 08:39 PM	#134
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	in reply to bruce Not at the same time, no. But the same facilities. Schools these days have single-toilet facilities. There are only two "multiple occupancy" bathrooms in our school, and they are upstairs next to the 5-8 grade rooms. They are rarely used. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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