Obamacare

[fargon]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Oh, for sure. Me personally, I was hoping for single payer.

That will not happen until we get rid of the present congress, and president.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Oh, for sure. Me personally, I was hoping for single payer.

QFT.

I'm right there with you, sister.

[xoxoxoBruce]

This is a national map of personal debt in collections. Not those getting screwed by the system, just those who have fallen behind.
At this link is an interactive map where you can choose a county where it will tell you the debt and how much of it is medical debt.

[Clodfobble]

You say that like it's unlikely. Step one is less than a year away.


Also: I have seen statistical analysis that has convinced me that the voting machines in key states/counties were hacked, and the evidence is building. It's going to get a lot uglier before it gets better, but by the 2020 election, we'll be using paper ballots nationwide. You heard it here first.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Also: I have seen statistical analysis that has convinced me that the voting machines in key states/counties were hacked, and the evidence is building. It's going to get a lot uglier before it gets better, but by the 2020 election, we'll be using paper ballots nationwide. You heard it here first.

Why would people voted in by hacked machines vote to change the machines?

[xoxoxoBruce]

It didn't go far enough because they had to compromise in order to get the people who had bought the congressmen on board or we would have got nothing. The hope was improvements would be made step by step, but the GOP going into full attack mode killed that hope.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Why would people voted in by hacked machines vote to change the machines?

Well, the hope is that the hacking would be exposed, and the outcry would be so great that even a Republican majority couldn't defy their constituents, as happened with the healthcare repeal earlier this year. Also, it gives Republicans an "out" to disassociate themselves with Trump, since presumably the primaries were hacked, too. It's a "forgive us, because it turns out we weren't responsible for him after all" kind of move.

[Undertoad]

Good news from Marcus, who reports that his subsidy has increased substantially. So although his premiums went up, his overall bill will be going down. He must have had more reported income the previous year or something. I feel better

[Griff]

good

[classicman]

My premiums went up to over $9200 for 2018. Thats about a $3000 INCREASE... AGAIN!
WTF? There is no way I can afford that. I have opted out of the circus and joined a Christian alternative healthcare plan for under $2000 a year. I a responsible for anything under $500 and the plan covers me for things over $500. Stay tuned ... ... ...

[DanaC]

I am curious what the increase would have been on the old system.

[Clodfobble]

You're about to find out, since the new tax bill also surreptitiously eliminates the individual mandate. Folks can go back to buying no insurance, which will I'm sure lower prices for everyone...

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

You're about to find out, since the new tax bill also surreptitiously eliminates the individual mandate. Folks can go back to buying no insurance, which will I'm sure lower prices for everyone...

Mandate's still there, just not the penalty for having no insurance.

[Undertoad]

Is Dan part of this policy? I'm wondering if the private insurers are getting around pre-existing conditions by just accepting and then raising premiums year-by-year on such cases.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Is Dan part of this policy? I'm wondering if the private insurers are getting around pre-existing conditions by just accepting and then raising premiums year-by-year on such cases.

Nope. This is just for me. Also, they cannot do that as all premiums must be the same for all who are the same age. The only variable that I’m aware of is smoking versus non-smoking.